Just Heard The New Metallica Song

[Endrik]

James said right on their "Year and a half in the life..." That Bob suggested a lot of changes that made the songs less "Dark"...They said it was refreshing and even totally changed "Through The Never" from it's original name of "When Never Comes" James said it was so dark and Bob help them look at music differently intead of..."Hitting that E chord all the time".

that's what producers do, arrange and whatnot, It's sad that many refuse to see complexity in simple stuff, actually stuff that sounds very complex can be very basic.
Gotta love that E chord thing thrash metal was very basic chord wise back then...open E palm-muting and random power chords was the formula, but you can hear a lot of big chords on the black album wich is inteed refreshing to a musician who is used to play E5 and A5 all the time

[toddstaples]

But Motley Crue's new album will be done this year and Bob's critics can eat their own shit when it's in the stores.

:ROTF: :ROTF:

[Firebird V]

MOP was truly the last GREAT album by MetallicA...

[SouthPlatteDemon]

Metallica starting going downhill when they kicked Mustaine out for being too metal.

[sevser]

Well people tend to lump all metal bands into the E 5th thing all the time...Metallica made some very complex arrangements and did incorporate many other chords other that root 5th chords...Also used some very cool harmonies that were less than typical 5th harmonies before Bob to...

If a formula works...I could care less how complex or simple the chords are...A lot of people think AC/DC just use root 5th chords too...Mal almost always plays open chords to Angus root 5th then the bouncing 8th notes from the bass is what makes AC/DC...Leave it alone producer!

I write a lot of my stuff using open chords, diminished chords with the second guitarist using root 5th...What ever it takes. I /We use huge fucked up chords all the time and most people can't pick it out...they assume because its metal that it's root 5ths.

Yes, producers do these things...I'm saying in his case with Metallica...That's too bad. But, at the same time, I don't really care because there are so many bands that have left anything they have ever done in the dust...

[Downfall]

Oh great, here we go again. Lets have a huge big Discussion / argument on who said Metallica were going shit First.
"I Threw my Motorhead album out the window because I Knew it was going to Inspire a really Good thrash metal band who would then Sell - out"

[toejam]

and what even more sucks is that the bass lines were arranged like they were made for kindergarden's polka-punk band

Yeah, that's what you get when your bass player mimics the rhythm guitar and doesn't play real basslines. :ROTF:

[sevser]

Oh great, here we go again. Lets have a huge big Discussion / argument on who said Metallica were going shit First.
"I Threw my Motorhead album out the window because I Knew it was going to Inspire a really Good thrash metal band who would then Sell - out"

Actually we are having a very interesting discussion...and sharing our thoughts...thats what this is...A discussion board...

[Endrik]

Well people tend to lump all metal bands into the E 5th thing all the time...Metallica made some very complex arrangements and did incorporate many other chords other that root 5th chords...Also used some very cool harmonies that were less than typical 5th harmonies before Bob to...

If a formula works...I could care less how complex or simple the chords are...A lot of people think AC/DC just use root 5th chords too...Mal almost always plays open chords to Angus root 5th then the bouncing 8th notes from the bass is what makes AC/DC...Leave it alone producer!

yeah, but classic thrash metal was 99% power chords, I know I used to be fan of that stuff when I was 15, I went thru one album per day because it was easy to pick up the riffs due the simple chords.
Now AC/DC uses a lot of moving "bass notes" and producers encourage them to do that. But my favourite riffs are played on single notes ala Jimmy Pages and Joe Perry...it's the influence of funk bass players. But I like hooks and choruses made with big chords because it helps to carry the vocal melody better.

[m2pmd70]

Interesting. Does it take a special kind of guitar to play stuff other than power chords? Mine doesn't know any other kind. :P

[VitaminG]

didn't Zep predate funk?

[TrendkillDBD]

I'm interested to hear a new album... Rob Trujillo, although not Cliff Burton, is very ill. I saw the video of them playing Orion live and it was awesome.

I hate Newstead. All the albums that he played on sucked except for Justice which you couldnt even hear the bass. Kill em All and MoP are my favorite tallica albums, but Justice had the best guitar and drum parts, IMO. Imagine Justice with Burton....

[Endrik]

didn't Zep predate funk?

one of Zep's main influence was Funk/Soul/Motown, it was Bonham's and John Paul Jones' favourite, a lot of Zep tunes are based on funk grooves and Jimmy Page copied a lot of funk bass lines. Funk was born a cople of years earlier than Zep, they must have picked that up pretty quickly, they were session musicians after all. It influenced the Rolling Stones too although they started in '62.

[dtt001]

Might as well called it St. Crapper. The 'new song' may be flushed as well.
I used to think they were alright. Back to Unleashed in the East for me.

[RacerX]

Who, now?