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Loomis is defiantely better song and riff writer than Rusty but as far as lead playing, i dont like them both.
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Seriously, you know Cooley is in the band... you know how he plays... why would you expect anything different? Just take it for what it is... a shred fest. Sure, you cant hum along to the solo... but who gives a fuck? Its kickass NEW metal and we should all be pretty thankful!
Criticizing Rustys solo is like buying a new Yngwie album and complaining because he plays the same scales over and over again just like the last 42 albums.
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I like that. I think I'll pick up the cd. The riffs/song is not as technical as I was expecting from Rusty but its solid metal. Sous like Primal Fear Vocally. It's be interesting to see what else they can come up with. I hope its not all ballads.
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Originally posted by dyingsea View PostI actually really liked that... all except Rusty's wayyy too long mindless shred fest.
The instrumental breakdowns were awesome.He did slow down a lil' in the end and that's where I started to like it - too little, too late.
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That "City Of The Dead" song they released umpteen years ago was MUCH better.
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Not horrible. The solo needed editing down. Started out good but lost the plot half way through and started sounding too neoclassical. He kind of pulled it together at the end.
Speaking of Loomis and Nevermore, TGE is one of my favorite new records. The production of this Outworld track hints at it in my opinion.
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I gotta admit, never heard of the fellow until now. I checked out Under the Influence just to see some other stuff with him in it. I still think Yngwie was/is the best neo-classical player around.
Seems like a ton of wanking going on with this guy. Beautiful technique but wheres the melody?
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The intro gave me a total Queeeeeeeeen of the reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeich feel.
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Originally posted by Endrik View PostI'm talkin about him using the same good ol' Yngwie, Gilbert and Becker licks all over again. Although I think he plays some cool riffs, his lead style isn't unique in any way.
90% of it is scales or arpeggios played up and down very fastly. Nice, you really don't have to think about them too much, they go nicely ascendingly or descendingly... thru the scale... nothing out of the box... but in strict "military" order... 1.2.3.4.5.6.7.1.2.3.4.5.6.7.....etc. etc.
By the time you are finished listening to the album you feel like when you hear another diminished guitar run one more time... your johnson is getting diminished.
And then you suddenly realize that you can't remember any of the solos because there were no "humable" themes within the leads at all.
And then you are listening to the Outworld-Cooley album wich isn't a weenie shrinker anymore... but your dick just complitely falls off.
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Originally posted by khabibissell View PostI disagree with this one. Though Loomis does turn on the jets pretty much full time, he's got a great vibrato and rarely do his solos sound out of place or like mindless wanking.
90% of it is scales or arpeggios played up and down very fastly. Nice, you really don't have to think about them too much, they go nicely ascendingly or descendingly... thru the scale... nothing out of the box... but in strict "military" order... 1.2.3.4.5.6.7.1.2.3.4.5.6.7.....etc. etc.
By the time you are finished listening to the album you feel like when you hear another diminished guitar run one more time... your johnson is getting diminished.
And then you suddenly realize that you can't remember any of the solos because there were no "humable" themes within the leads at all.
And then you are listening to the Outworld-Cooley album wich isn't a weenie shrinker anymore... but your dick just complitely falls off.Last edited by Endrik; 06-01-2007, 09:47 AM.
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I definitely like how when they hit the solo section they do something totally different from the rest of the song. I think it's great when artists do a new riff under the solo section because it helps to elevate it. This minimizes the feeling that the solo is being done just for the sake of doing a solo.
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Rusty obviously has perfect technique, we've all seen the videos, but the solo on this song has me feeling deflated.
It was a total letdown I'm sorry to say.
I was waiting to be blown away cause I've only heard one old recording of Outworld.
Song was cool and production sounds great though.
Just my opinion.
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Originally posted by Endrik View Postyeah... and that's exactly the same what I feel about Loomis too when he plays leads
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