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  • #16
    perhaps Eddie treated every player who came after him the same way he was treated by his idols.... Joe Perry, Blackmore etc. wouldn't even talk to Ed
    "There is nothing more fearful than imagination without taste" - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

    "To be stupid, selfish and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost" - Gustave Flaubert

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Endrik View Post
      perhaps Eddie treated every player who came after him the same way he was treated by his idols.... Joe Perry, Blackmore etc. wouldn't even talk to Ed
      That could possibly be true. If it is, it's great insight into Eddies character...

      I'm not bashing Eddie at all. I believe his tone is second to none. I feel Randy was a bit more versitle than Eddie but both were good. Eddie had a greater impact than Randy though...
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      • #18
        I think Rhoads had more of a disciplined, structured classical approach to his playing. I hear alot of melody in Randy's rhythm and lead work. Ed was more rhythmic and spontaneous to my ear, and his rhythm playing was where you found the melody. His leads were more flashy and off the cuff... not too much melody there, especially in his early stuff.

        I know Eddie is widely regarded as the player that brought tapping to electric guitar, but I'll guarantee he swiped the idea from someone else. He just made it an integral part of his style moreso than anybody else.

        Eddie just comes off as such an arrogant ass... Like Shawn said, Randy never once talked smack about anyone in interviews like Eddies seems to like to do.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Shawn Lutz View Post
          The first two Ozzy albums to me we not meant to be commercial pop music and Van Halen was more straight a ahead party your ass of Rock and Roll.
          I loved VH's versality.... every album had something new... they had classic blues tunes, old school rock'n'roll stuff, prog-ish songs..... also latin, jazz, funk, disco, classical etc. influenced stuff.

          Unlik Ozzy... VH was groove oriented so that's why they were cooler IMO.
          Same reason I take Ratt over any Dokken stuff.
          "There is nothing more fearful than imagination without taste" - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

          "To be stupid, selfish and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost" - Gustave Flaubert

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          • #20
            nobody plays a better rythym guitar than EVH. Way overlooked.
            Not helping the situation since 1965!

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            • #21
              funny... I think Ed made one of the most melodic chord progressions ever.
              "There is nothing more fearful than imagination without taste" - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

              "To be stupid, selfish and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost" - Gustave Flaubert

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              • #22
                I think Ed's playing is quite melodic, too. His inventive, innovative, spontaneous and melodic playing style makes him my favorite guitarist by far. No one else compares - for me.

                But . . . Randy was great too, in a totally different way. His playing is very disciplined and structured, and the classical stuff really went well with Ozzy's dark imagery, IMO.

                There's certainly no need for any competition between the two. Everybody has a favorite flavor.

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                • #23
                  I think that everybody ripped off Ed to a certain extent back in the day. We were all blown away by his style. Nobody sounded like him up to that point. I also agree that Lynch made everybody nervous.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by jgcable View Post
                    I think that everybody ripped off Ed to a certain extent back in the day. We were all blown away by his style. Nobody sounded like him up to that point. I also agree that Lynch made everybody nervous.
                    there's one hell of a guitar player. Lynch is a BEAST

                    in the arguement of Rhoads vs. Halen, I'd say Rhoads was better.

                    Rhoads didnt need to use as much of the flashy techniques to get noticed, he played his own way. He also is strickly regarded for his playing, his tone sucked, straight up.

                    but atleast %50 of Eddie's praise comes from his tone, as opposed to his playing
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Frigo89 View Post
                      there's one hell of a guitar player. Lynch is a BEAST

                      in the arguement of Rhoads vs. Halen, I'd say Rhoads was better.

                      Rhoads didnt need to use as much of the flashy techniques to get noticed, he played his own way. He also is strickly regarded for his playing, his tone sucked, straight up.

                      but atleast %50 of Eddie's praise comes from his tone, as opposed to his playing

                      Here is what I think.

                      Ed had much better live tone
                      Ed was more innovative
                      Ed had better chops
                      Randy would have eclipsed Ed and probably most other players if he hadn't have died so young.
                      Randy barely even got a chance to start. He was progressing so fast I can only imagine what he would have become.

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                      • #26
                        only very few are as good as Randy when it comes to compositional guitar solos.... but when we leave composition outside then there's very little going on in his actual playing style.... I mean Ed is full of nuances... different bends, vibratos, dynamics, harmonics etc. etc. etc. but Randy had pretty much the same tonality all the time.... I allways liked very dynamical players who's style is full of nuances.... like Ed, Lynch, Sykes etc.
                        "There is nothing more fearful than imagination without taste" - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

                        "To be stupid, selfish and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost" - Gustave Flaubert

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Endrik View Post
                          only very few are as good as Randy when it comes to compositional guitar solos.... but when we leave composition outside then there's very little going on in his actual playing style.... I mean Ed is full of nuances... different bends, vibratos, dynamics, harmonics etc. etc. etc. but Randy had pretty much the same tonality all the time.... I allways liked very dynamical players who's style is full of nuances.... like Ed, Lynch, Sykes etc.
                          I kind of disagree with that, Randy used a lot of harmonics and bends and hammers and fills in his playing, I don't think Ed can claim to have invented all those techniques.

                          And Randy could play very fast as well as some really beautiful slow passages in some of his songs, I'm not sure Ed was really into that back in the day.
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                          • #28
                            Ed may have had great tone early in his career, but his post 5150 studio tone became over processed and thin.

                            I love EVH's playing and will go see them in October if the tickets are $100 or less, but man is the guy an ass!

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                            • #29
                              They're both awesome obviously and everyone has a favorite but Eddie sounded like a dick saying at least Randy was honest and admitted to learning everything he knew from Ed. Gimme a break.

                              Why don't you put out an album full of other peoples songs again Ed.

                              Most uncharismatic interviewer I've heard.

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                              • #30
                                Eddie has a great natural touch that you either got or you don't. However, if he "hit the books" like Randy and employed more discipline and knowledge, he would have been unstoppable. But, then he never would have wrote that hack "Hot for Teacher" intro (the scale he is playing is just plain wrong!) I have no idea what I am trying to say.
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