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  • #61
    Originally posted by hippietim View Post
    LOL. Really? You're kidding, right?
    Randy's pseudo-neo-classical influence has always been highly overrated IMO - there were a number of guys before him that were more melodic and technically more accomplished (Uli and Schenker spring to mind quickly).
    +1 on Uli and Schenker. Also, if you want to find where EVH got his initial ideas for the volume swells with echo (Cathedral) check out Winterdays by Uli and his Electric Sun band. I believe Uli did this before EVH. Fortunately, Uli always does things with great emotion and taste whereas EVH makes it a gymnastic approach with little to no melody -or to quote RR "flash" techniques. In closing, loved Randy's melodic approach, but can't say I could even hum an EVH solo (Unchained???)

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    • #62
      Uli/Schenker pioneers of neoclassical. Uli is God-like and untouchable in that style. Then and now IMO!!!

      But Yngwie made it popular..in '83
      "Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
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      • #63
        Originally posted by Endrik View Post
        Ed was born with the magic touch... he would play only one note.. or even fart on the pickups and people could recognize it's him... Randy had to write long epic guitar solos to make his point
        i dunno about randy having to play long epic things to be recognized bro?
        i would know him by one note
        i love eddie and agree he had the magic touch but so did randy only in a different way.
        randy had quite a few trademarks himself that are real easy to recognize
        If it's not a CHARVEL then i dont want to play it,look at it or even fuckin THINK about it!

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        • #64
          Originally posted by horns666 View Post
          Uli/Schenker pioneers of neoclassical. Uli is God-like and untouchable in that style. Then and now IMO!!!

          But Yngwie made it popular..in '83
          yeah before YJM came out with steeler i was listening to MS,UYR,EVH,RR, and all the other greats back then and then heard this wired named dude absolutely blazing on the neck and i was like WTF????
          he was faster than dimeola and had a lot of uli/blackmore,etc in his playing
          i was floored by that but even more floored with the stuff he did next with alcatraz which was way more tasteful/classy than what he did with steeler
          If it's not a CHARVEL then i dont want to play it,look at it or even fuckin THINK about it!

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          • #65
            Originally posted by ulijdavid View Post
            +1 on Uli and Schenker. Also, if you want to find where EVH got his initial ideas for the volume swells with echo (Cathedral) check out Winterdays by Uli and his Electric Sun band. I believe Uli did this before EVH. Fortunately, Uli always does things with great emotion and taste whereas EVH makes it a gymnastic approach with little to no melody -or to quote RR "flash" techniques. In closing, loved Randy's melodic approach, but can't say I could even hum an EVH solo (Unchained???)
            I think Ed's sense of melody came out in his songwriting more so than in his soloing. He is more of a chops/flash guy when it comes to playing solos. His solos were mostly improvised, unlike Rhoads who composed most of his. Ed's true gift is his ears... Without them, he would be in trouble. When you read his interviews, he comes off as having no idea what he's doing technically. I used to think that it was because he was being an ass, but the more I think about it, he probably doesn't know what he's doing. He's just using his ear and playing what sounds good. There's a reason he's never done a clinic...

            As for Uli, he's incredible. Not too much more you can say...

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            • #66
              Originally posted by khabibissell View Post
              Exactly Shawn, Randy and Eddie were totally different players. I guess anyone who tapped in the late 70's to present copied Eddie... Billy Gibbons, Steve Hackett, Ace Frehley, etc...
              ***** Yeah like Chet Atkins..(tapping in 1969') with Jerry Reed
              and Steve Howe... both of those guys STOLE from Eddie!

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              • #67
                I remember the first time I heard EVH and it was on a promo tape for their first album. It was sent to a buddy of mine who owned a music store in Shreveport. He popped the cassette into the player and I was like "is your tape player broken? This shit stinks worse than dirty ass!" It took two or three listens before my jaw dropped and I realized that what I was hearing was something special. See, I grew up on a steady diet of Blackmore, Schenker, Travers, Hendrix, Beck, Harrison, and even the hot country pickers like Campbell, Reed, etc, etc, etc.

                EVH sounded nothing like what I was used to hearing and you know what, that's what made him great. I'm not taking anything from RR, but in my opinion, he wasn't the cat pushing the envelope.
                "POOP"

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by hippietim View Post
                  LOL. Really? You're kidding, right?



                  First, I'll say that I love Randy's guitar playing and thought he did some fantastic writing with Ozzy. But...Randy was nowhere near in Eddie's league in terms of setting the world on fire. Randy had absolutely TERRIBLE guitar tone whereas Eddie had crushing good tone. Randy's pseudo-neo-classical influence has always been highly overrated IMO - there were a number of guys before him that were more melodic and technically more accomplished (Uli and Schenker spring to mind quickly).
                  ******* But you have to wonder Tim...if RR would have lived another
                  20 years? EVH got to do some amazing stuff from 1982 to about 97'

                  Imagine if the really young RR's would have had another 10 years even?
                  What he might have come up with? :-)

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Robert Burns View Post
                    ***** Yeah like Chet Atkins..(tapping in 1969') with Jerry Reed
                    and Steve Howe... both of those guys STOLE from Eddie!
                    I read paganini tapped on the violin to some degree?
                    If it's not a CHARVEL then i dont want to play it,look at it or even fuckin THINK about it!

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by khabibissell View Post
                      Ed's true gift is his ears... Without them, he would be in trouble. When you read his interviews, he comes off as having no idea what he's doing technically. I used to think that it was because he was being an ass, but the more I think about it, he probably doesn't know what he's doing. He's just using his ear and playing what sounds good. There's a reason he's never done a clinic...
                      this is very true

                      I've heard people say that Ed and Alex are amazing concert pianists on classical and jazz music but they don't have any clue what they are doing

                      one of my fav. Ed moments was when he jammed with Steve Lukather... Luke said that Ed just sat behind the piano and played the most amazing shit but when he gave Ed some sheet music then Ed was like... "C6, does this mean I have to play a C chord six times?"
                      "There is nothing more fearful than imagination without taste" - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

                      "To be stupid, selfish and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost" - Gustave Flaubert

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