I have a new found respect for Yngvie

[markD]

Also at the time I remember thinking, man this vocalist sucks.

hahahahaha, i thought the same thing. i still do.....

[fuel0707]

hahahahaha, i thought the same thing. i still do.....

Which one? Yngwie changes vocalists like, well, Ritchie Blackmore... :ROTF:

[markD]

i guess it would jeff scott soto....though i think most of his 80's and early 90's vocalists suck. i haven't bought any of his albums since "eclipse".

[Larz]

Yes, Soto was the one, although he's apparently had some success since as a backup vocalist and his work in the Rockstar movie, not to mention his 'brief' stint as frontman of Journey.

[Frigo89]

Yeah Yngwie is fucking good. And boring after a couple songs. I love his accoustical stuff. And I saw him with Satch and Vai and yeah you could tell the difference - Yngwie plays much harder and with more intensity and certainly way better sweeps as well as alternate picking.

But as far as fire goes Frank Marino has just as much fire as Yngwie in my opinion.

Frank Marino has gotta be one of the top 3 Guitarists ever.
not to mention the fact that he does the vocals!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nzna-QPmqM&mode=related&search=

Who The F*ck is Ying-Yang Malmsteen!?

[horns666]

Frank Marino has gotta be one of the top 3 Guitarists ever.
not to mention the fact that he does the vocals!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nzna-QPmqM&mode=related&search=

Who The F*ck is Ying-Yang Malmsteen!?

1978 was a good year for me..I was introduced to Frank Marino, Van Halen, Weed and Pussy!!!

[kmanick]

1978 was a good year for me..I was introduced to Frank Marino, Van Halen, Weed and Pussy!!!

Same here (at least the Marino and VH)
the weed and the Pussy came a little before 78 more like 75
I saw Frank Marino open up for Ted Nugent in the old Boston garden and I was amazed Ted even cam out and played after Frank's set.
Frank Marino was a huge influence to my playing early on.
I used to jam to that first live album endlessly

"whoooo do you love ?? tell me whoooo do you love??"
fucking great stuff

[jgcable]

Frank Marino has gotta be one of the top 3 Guitarists ever.
not to mention the fact that he does the vocals!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nzna-QPmqM&mode=related&search=

Who The F*ck is Ying-Yang Malmsteen!?

Why don't you roll up another joint and experience another Mohagony Rush!!
Yngwie is the son of Uli and we all know who Uli is!!

Oh yea.. regarding the clip of Frank... nice playing. He sounds almost as good as Chuck Berry.
Frank Marino absolutely is NOT one of the top 3 guitarists ever. C'mon... give me a break.
If Frank is in the top 3 then Aldo Nova is #4.
He's good but not that good. Pentatonic and blues scales and extremely repetitious. Reminds me of a watered down Jimmy Page.

[skorb]

Yes, Soto was the one, although he's apparently had some success since as a backup vocalist and his work in the Rockstar movie,

what did Soto do in Rock Star?

[skorb]

Frank Marino has gotta be one of the top 3 Guitarists ever.
not to mention the fact that he does the vocals!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nzna-QPmqM&mode=related&search=

Who The F*ck is Ying-Yang Malmsteen!?

you are demonstrating a severe lack of musical and guitar knowledge if this is really your opinion.

just saying.

[skorb]

Reminds me of a watered down Jimmy Page.

maybe the totally wasted on smack live Jimmy later in his time, but not the intensely creative studio genius triple guitar tracking song-writing god Jimmy that brought us those first 5 LZ masterpieces.

[jgcable]

what did Soto do in Rock Star?

Thats what I want to know too. I thought my buddy Mike did the vocals.

[skorb]

Thats what I want to know too. I thought my buddy Mike did the vocals.

I actually am watching that movie over the past day or so, never saw it before, I see Zakk and Pilson and Jason Bonham, but no Soto at least on screen.

[horns666]

John G..Hmmm brotha..going to have to disagree with your spin on Frank Marino. I'm bored so I'll elaborate.

I have his entire body of work which starts with Maxoom recorded in 1972. He was pretty untouchable at the time. He was much more than box shapes Pentatonics..alhough that ceratainly is big part of his gig...as is John Sykes, Zakk Wylde, Rick Emmet, Page, Jimi..ect

He was really over-the top and cutting edge for the time..incuding classical, jazz alond with his shredding-blues style..and of course he perfected the divebomb..

Check out his songs Tales of The Unexpected, I'm a King Bee, Anthem, and his 78' live album..Oh the only radio hit they had was "Strange Dreams" in '80

In '78 my best friend (VH Trib) was playing "Eruption"along with the rest of VH I , the solo to Triumph's Rock N' Roll Machine, UfO's "Obsession" Mahogony Rush live..unfortunately we were introduced to the Scorpions after Uli left. In '79 (our first band) we learned all of Lovedrive and Unleashed in the East..Then players like Gary Moore, John Sykes, and Randy emerged in '81..by the time 1982 came we were already tappin' with 8 fingers and doing weird crickett noises with the whammy bars..that snowballed 'till '83 when Yngwie hit the scene with Steeler..then Alcatrazz. By that time we were just discovering Uli Roth because the Scorps were pretty unknown until Jabs and the Schenkers bros kicked out Lovedrive with more radio friendly songs.

We didn't take players like Clapton, or Page too seriously back then. I became a Zepplin fan in my 30's, and I still don't like Clapton..We worshipped Tony Iommi instead!

Alda Nova..guys like that was nothing more than a "Catchy" guitar/rock song and nothing more.

To me it was always about "shred" from the start..My friends didn't care about the song really..it was all about the solos..be it Hold the Line, Sultans of Swing, My Sha-rona or some riff from the Cars..ect

I think the two most overlooked and underrated rock guitarist in history are Uli Roth and Frank Marino...both who ruled their own worlds their way and went comepletely under the radar.

I think the three most "influential" guitarist of all time are Jimi, Eddie and Yngwie..ALL guitar players come from at least ONE of those schools..IMO.

I'm 43..I turned 14 in 1978 ..I just starting playing guitar..but turned to bass because I couldn't keep up with my best friend who was playing everything I mentioned above as soon as it came out..I couldn't compete with that at the time. That and bassists such as Geezer, Tony Levin, Louis Johnson were my influence..

The shred snowball never stopped rolling for me and most of you too..anyone who cared knew about ALL the 80's shredders and bands as soon as they came out..

I never new I was ever going to find the same kind of inspration I did in those days..post 80's. It happened in 1996 with Jeff Looomis..he hit me just as Ed did in '78..It was unexpected and totally blew me away..His style was unlike anyone I've heard..it was "fresh". I took to guitar pretty seriously soon afterwards..and sold all my bass gear.

But now I'm re-discovering players like Ritchie Blackmore as we speak. I didn't really notice him at that time. But much like Uli I can identify with and hang onto each note that guy plays..Uli is the most blatant of Yngwie's influences.."Rising Force" is the name of the artwork on Uli's 1978 Earthquake release...but I can hear Richie, Jimi and Eddie too..

Someone mentioned Yngwie on Mr. Crowley w/ Tim Owens on the Ozzy trib. Check out "Light up the sky" w/ Doug Pinnick on the VH trib..it smokes. I think his tone never sounded better!!!

If you look at my list of favorite guitarists..there is ONE common factor.. no matter what style.."virtuocity"

Ok Bye..

Bill Z

[toejam]

what did Soto do in Rock Star?

Thats what I want to know too. I thought my buddy Mike did the vocals.

Jeff also did vocals. Though, I'm not sure if he did any in the movie or just on the soundtrack.