Dio slamming Viv

[fullmetalguitar]

PS - Def Leppard has NOT had any good albums.

From this point on, your opinion on anything musically related means absolutely nothing.

[deflep]

AC/DC with one good album is laughable, curious how old are you Deflep?

AC/DC had more good albums than Def Leppard before Brian Johnson even came on board and that was what, 27 years ago?

I'm 31...so I hope that gives me some credibility in the "AC/DC is the most boring repetitive, and musically limited rock band ever" topic !!!!

I never brought up sales by the way!! lol....but since you guys started I felt the need to post sales figures.

In all seriousness I like AC/DC but there music can't compare to the layered studio mastery of Hysteria and Pyromania.

[Larz]

AC/DC with one good album is laughable, curious how old are you Deflep?

AC/DC had more good albums than Def Leppard before Brian Johnson even came on board and that was what, 27 years ago?

[hippietim]

Hey deflep, Britney Spears "…Baby One More Time" sold more than Hysteria - does that make it good music?

PS - Def Leppard has NOT had any good albums.

[toejam]

Lep and AC/DC are tied...but more props for Leppard who actually had more than one decent CD...AC/DC is like a Spinal Tap band...a parody of themselves!

LOL AC/DC has a hell of a lot more albums than Def Leppard, and every album is good. It's worked for them, and they proved you don't need to change your formula and sell out. Def Leppard became boring after Pyromania.

[Larz]

I had seen Back in Black sales numbers qouted in the 45 million range to date.

Loved Pyromania but that was a long long time ago.

[livebiz]

..AC/DC is like a Spinal Tap band...a parody of themselves!

What? I've personally witnessed multiple ST moments at a KISS show...but AC/DC?...pure rock 105.5!

[deflep]

I know you said your opinion, but I'd imagine AC/DC's Back in Black record comes pretty darn close by itself to eclipsing Def leppard's career album sales. Nothing to base that on though and there's no really accurate data on that anyway.

Lep and AC/DC are tied...but more props for Leppard who actually had more than one decent CD...AC/DC is like a Spinal Tap band...a parody of themselves!

1980s

1. Michael Jackson - Thriller (1982) 27 million copies
2. AC/DC - Back in Black (1980) 21 million copies
3. Bruce Springsteen - Born in the U.S.A. (1984) 15 million copies
4. Guns N' Roses - Appetite for Destruction (1987) 15 million copies
5. Journey - Greatest Hits (1988) 14 million copies
6. Prince - Purple Rain (1984) 13 million copies
7. Whitney Houston - Whitney Houston (1985) 13 million copies
8. Def Leppard - Hysteria (1987) 12 million copies
9. Bon Jovi - Slippery When Wet (1986) 12 million copies
10. Kenny Rogers - Greatest Hits (1980) 12 million copies
11. Phil Collins - No Jacket Required (1985) 12 million copies
12. Madonna - Like A Virgin (1984) 10 million copies
13. Van Halen - 1984 (1984) 10 million copies

• Notes:
  • Billy Joel's Greatest Hits Volume I & II (1985) has sold 10.5 million copies (21 million units)
  • Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band's Live/1975-85 (1986) has sold 4.3 million copies (13 million units)
  • Def Leppard's Pyromania is certified 10 times platinum in America alone (1983)
  • U2's "The Joshua Tree" is certified 10 times platinum (1987)
  • Aerosmith's "Greatest Hits" is certified 10 times platinum (1980)

[hippietim]

Phil is a very good guitar player. All you have to do is find a non Def Leppard recording of him. He played great on a Jeff Beck tribute disc I have. Def Leppard is crap.

[Larz]

I'm a huge Leppard fan and I have read several articles were Viv dumps on rock and metal...and love'em or hate'em but Def Leppard is the biggest 80s metal band in history (IMO).

I know you said your opinion, but I'd imagine AC/DC's Back in Black record comes pretty darn close by itself to eclipsing Def leppard's career album sales. Nothing to base that on though and there's no really accurate data on that anyway.

[Edit] I'm thinking this may be a totally ridiculous statement by me.

[siggy14]

To say Def was the biggest 80's metal band is a little overboard. Actualy i would say it is very close between Motley Crue, Ozzy and Def Leppard.

I'm a huge Leppard fan and I have read several articles were Viv dumps on rock and metal...and love'em or hate'em but Def Leppard is the biggest 80s metal band in history (IMO).

If Viv is such an idealist about guitar than he should go play blues riffs in his house and let someone else have a chance to rock out with the Leps.

Alex

[deflep]

I'm happy that Phil Collen has a signature Jackson, but he never did much for me as a guitar player... except when I was 11. There were and are too many out there that are better soloists AND better songwriters.

In defense of Phil..the guys playing on Hysteria with all the layered parts, crazy fills, dive bombs, and pure melodic shredding was ripped off by every 80s metal band in the late 80s. Their production and song-writing chops on those early albums have still not been topped.

Phil also has put on record some sick extended solos with very kool scale choices ...see White Lightening on Adrenalize and the first track in Retro-Active.

What rock songs are better than Rock of Ages and Pour Some Sugar on Me????? It just doesnt get any better!!

Alex

[deflep]

Vivian has slagged everybody he has EVER played with, even Def Leppard who he's with now. He bitches that they don't pay him enough. He disses metal and the fans who revere him for his work with Dio. He likes to fuck 13 and 14 year old girls when he can get away with it.

So I'm with Dio on this one, after years of restraint and in a casual setting he said what he really thinks one time. Viv has been talking shit that maligned not only his benefactor but his fans for all these years.

And after what, 15 years in Def Leppard, he still can't or won't play the Steve Clark parts correctly? WTF? I could see that if he came up with something better but that certainly hasn't been the case.

I'm a huge Leppard fan and I have read several articles were Viv dumps on rock and metal...and love'em or hate'em but Def Leppard is the biggest 80s metal band in history (IMO).

If Viv is such an idealist about guitar than he should go play blues riffs in his house and let someone else have a chance to rock out with the Leps.

Alex

[Frigo89]

John Sykes in Def Leppard?

Na, they would have made him play like a pussy too...

I know what you mean, and that would be no-damn-good, Sykes is a badass in every aspect

[Chasbo]

John Sykes in Def Leppard?

Na, they would have made him play like a pussy too...