Dio slamming Viv

[Larz]

I had seen Back in Black sales numbers qouted in the 45 million range to date.

Loved Pyromania but that was a long long time ago.

[toejam]

Lep and AC/DC are tied...but more props for Leppard who actually had more than one decent CD...AC/DC is like a Spinal Tap band...a parody of themselves!

LOL AC/DC has a hell of a lot more albums than Def Leppard, and every album is good. It's worked for them, and they proved you don't need to change your formula and sell out. Def Leppard became boring after Pyromania.

[hippietim]

Hey deflep, Britney Spears "…Baby One More Time" sold more than Hysteria - does that make it good music?

PS - Def Leppard has NOT had any good albums.

[Larz]

AC/DC with one good album is laughable, curious how old are you Deflep?

AC/DC had more good albums than Def Leppard before Brian Johnson even came on board and that was what, 27 years ago?

[deflep]

AC/DC with one good album is laughable, curious how old are you Deflep?

AC/DC had more good albums than Def Leppard before Brian Johnson even came on board and that was what, 27 years ago?

I'm 31...so I hope that gives me some credibility in the "AC/DC is the most boring repetitive, and musically limited rock band ever" topic !!!!

I never brought up sales by the way!! lol....but since you guys started I felt the need to post sales figures.

In all seriousness I like AC/DC but there music can't compare to the layered studio mastery of Hysteria and Pyromania.

[fullmetalguitar]

PS - Def Leppard has NOT had any good albums.

From this point on, your opinion on anything musically related means absolutely nothing.

[AdRock]

In defense of Phil..the guys playing on Hysteria with all the layered parts, crazy fills, dive bombs, and pure melodic shredding was ripped off by every 80s metal band in the late 80s. Their production and song-writing chops on those early albums have still not been topped.

Phil also has put on record some sick extended solos with very kool scale choices ...see White Lightening on Adrenalize and the first track in Retro-Active.

What rock songs are better than Rock of Ages and Pour Some Sugar on Me????? It just doesnt get any better!!

Alex

Out of all the Lep songs you could have written, you had to put "Pour Some Sugar on Me" :ROTF: :ROTF: :ROTF:

If you had put Wasted & Too Late For Love I wouldn't have had to reply.

[Frigo89]

I'm 31...so I hope that gives me some credibility in the "AC/DC is the most boring repetitive, and musically limited rock band ever" topic !!!!

I never brought up sales by the way!! lol....but since you guys started I felt the need to post sales figures.

In all seriousness I like AC/DC but there music can't compare to the layered studio mastery of Hysteria and Pyromania.

I personally hate AC/DC for the same reason, they have played the same damn song for 30 Fuckin' years:ROTF:

Judas Priest is where it's at

[pro-fusion]

Lep and AC/DC are tied...but more props for Leppard who actually had more than one decent CD...AC/DC is like a Spinal Tap band...a parody of themselves!

Every single AC/DC album up through "For Those About to Rock..." is better than any Def Leppard album, and I actually like "High and Dry."

[Larz]

I still listen to Razor's Edge a ton, love that record, the title track, Thunderstruck, Are You Ready, Money Talks, Mistress for Christmas, Fire Your Guns, Rock Your Heart Out, etc.

deflep, I guess you're old enough to have an informed opinion on it, I just disagree and I was a huge Lep fan in their prime.

[hippietim]

From this point on, your opinion on anything musically related means absolutely nothing.

From this point on, your opinion means absolutely nothing.

[hippietim]

In all seriousness I like AC/DC but there music can't compare to the layered studio mastery of Hysteria and Pyromania.

Are you serious? Those are torturously lame albums - they have all of the imagination and soul of a New Kids On The Block album. Pyromania is a remarkably bad example of why Tom Scholz should be kicked in the fellas for inventing the Rockman.

[VitaminG]

I never brought up sales by the way!! lol....but since you guys started I felt the need to post sales figures.

fair enough to quote sales figures, but at least try to show that you comprehend them.

2. AC/DC - Back in Black (1980) 21 million copies

8. Def Leppard - Hysteria (1987) 12 million copies

Lep and AC/DC are tied? 21 million does not equal 12 million

In defense of Phil..the guys playing on Hysteria with all the layered parts, crazy fills, dive bombs, and pure melodic shredding was ripped off by every 80s metal band in the late 80s. Their production and song-writing chops on those early albums have still not been topped.

Phil also has put on record some sick extended solos with very kool scale choices ...see White Lightening on Adrenalize and the first track in Retro-Active.

everyone else was ripping off Phil? I caught one of those extended solos on an ebay auction that someone posted in the E-fraid section. It was his solo spot during a concert. I said it then and I'll say it again - Gary Moore-lite. I was half expecting Def Lep to launch into End Of The World at the end of Phil's solo.

Are you serious? Those are torturously lame albums - they have all of the imagination and soul of a New Kids On The Block album. Pyromania is a remarkably bad example of why Tom Scholz should be kicked in the fellas for inventing the Rockman.

Good call! I guess one man's "studio mastery" is another's "over produced crap"

[rjohnstone]

Are you serious? Those are torturously lame albums - they have all of the imagination and soul of a New Kids On The Block album. Pyromania is a remarkably bad example of why Tom Scholz should be kicked in the fellas for inventing the Rockman.

Interesting side note to this conversation...
IIRC, Mutt produced a some AC/DC albums before he did Pyro and Hysteria.
And the Rockman was used heavily on Hysteria, not Pyro.
Listen to the title track for Hysteria... that's a fucking Rockman.
Very hard to reproduce that thin, tin can sound with quality gear.
Dig the song as a whole, but the tone sucked ass.

[deflep]

Y'know what I think is funny??
How this topic was about Dio hating Viv and it ended up being about AC/DC and Def Leppard....lol.

It truly boggles my mind how Def Leppard is hated by so many people....but in the end they never really wanted to be liked by just metal fans so I guess it doesn't matter.

AC/DC to me is like doing the same job your whole life. It gets old and boring. Def Leppard at least has taken some chances writing an alternative-flavored album in the 90s ( SLANG ) and trying to sound ultra pop ( X ). AC/DC hasn't even used an acoustic guitar....get over your SG Angus...its a lame guitar!


Alex