Still my hero...

[necrotechno]

I liked AFD. From the photo on the back, I thought they were doing a parody of glam metal. Taken in that light, it was pretty hilarious stuff. Then I found out they were SERIOUS...

[VitaminG]

You wanted danger back in 1989? Go to a Slayer show. To us, that was dangerous. Not GnR. They were the next "thing" in a long line of "things" the hair metal movement put out...

not that I was going to Slayer shows, but yea. I had been listening to metal (Iron Maiden, Priest, Dio, etc) for years already when G'n'R broke, Metallica was already several albums into their career & I was BIG into Megadeth. The Gunners came off like a grubbier version of the hair bands to me. And their look (the unwashed band, defiant expressions, empty Jack Daniels bottles everywhere, the cigarette hanging off the bottom lip) seemed just as contrived as the hair bands with their mousse, fishnets & lipstick. The big media push just made them the "next big thing", like Bengal says.

but then, loads of my friends liked them, so they certainly had their appeal. A lot of kids who wouldn't listen to the stuff I was listening to got into heavy rock as a result, so that could only be considered a good thing.

[skorb]

they had one great album.

I loved that album as much as anyone.

but everything after the first one was pretty much crap.

and now he's just a total freekin joke.

[Rsmacker]

No offence meant towards the guys in poison but I have no doubt I could take any one of them or maybe even two of them in a real fist fight if I was put into that position.

I believe you would be positively welcomed if you were to instigate a little fist action with the drummer.


I like Axl Rose, he's a gen-you-wine Rock Star, ie. a whining mentalist who thinks he is God's gift to music. The difference between him and sll the other wannabe Rock Stars is, of course, he HAS delivered the goods, albeit yonks ago. If I were him, I'd be sitting in my secluded mansion, humping slags and pissing about in my own little studio, not needing to work again, so fuck everybody else.
Hey! That's exactly what he is doing!!! Fair play to him.

AFD has a special place in my heart, GnR were the flavour of the month when I went to LA for the first time, and there was always something on the radio from that LP. I spent months lazing about in the sun, getting pissed, supporting Colombian farmers by creating demand for their produce, and fucking every single American chick I could, as well as one particularly filthy English girl, who a few years later broke my heart and pissed on the wreckage.
Ho hum, perhaps I don't like it after all, I certainly don't want to hear any of it now, I might jump off a bridge.

Oh, and I didn't like GnR for slaughtering Rose Tattoo's "Nice Boys".

[Endrik]

I fucking love GNR and Axl. I know Axl is probably the biggest douche among all the stars but that's what makes him great. I bet I couldn't be in the same room with him but fuck... he is THE ROCKSTAR!!!!

[Ripley7t]

My sister in law spent the night in jail with Axl in Atlanta. She got him to autograph a couple of things. Funny thing is she was like 40 at the time and didnt even know who in the hell he was. She got the autographs for my wife who at the time was more of a Thompson Twins/Tears for Fears type of girl, LOL. She gave them to my wife and she was like, who is this guy?

[Jason1212]

I can totally sympathise with the soundtrack statement. There were times when I was 17-18 that I would hear GnR or Metallica and I would get the taste of beer in my mouth. Many a night was spent riding in the back seat of a friends car, drinking bear or night train, and listening to appetite, live like a suicide, garage days, mop, etc. Good times for sure. I would love to see GnR pull it together and hit the road. Just them though no back up singers, douche keyboard player or horn section.

[eakinj]

eakinj,
I hear what you're saying. I don't really agree a whole lot but I hear you...

First it took well over a year for that first CD to catch on. I had heard that fuckin' thing waaaaay too much before I ever saw Welcome To The Jungle on Mtv...

As for production values. Yeah, it's a bit more raw than most hair metal bands. But I've always thought of GnR as a hair metal band. I still think they are, to an extent. So to me, they looked exactly like LA Guns and Faster Pussycat and those sleeze type bands. All influenced by The New York Dolls. So when they came out, it was nothing new. At least to me it wasn't... (Hanoi Rocks anyone?)

As for Axl being tough? I would have killed to be able to fight him back in the day. I always thought he was a puss that hid behind security. I could be wrong but that's what I took away from him. Scrawny as all fuck...

You wanted danger back in 1989? Go to a Slayer show. To us, that was dangerous. Not GnR. They were the next "thing" in a long line of "things" the hair metal movement put out...

Well I think the biggest difference was really how they looked, they weren't all dolled up like Posion, they were much grungier looking. I know they appealed a lot more to my friends who were still listening to Led Zeppelin then my friends who listened to Metallica. I dunno, I liked them, I would have liked to see them live. I think 90% of the appeal to them now is the mystery of will an album happen or more importantly how badly is the suck going to be that comes from it.

No, not acel being tough. far from. But you'd have to be out of your mind to get into a fist fight with a heroin junky (i'm not saying axl is, just using it as an example) and he just strikes me as someone who would bite and scratch and probably litterally try to bite your manhood off. Not to mention unless you knocked him cleanly out, I don't think he would stop, don't think he's smart enough to throw in a towl. No if he was actually tough he would have taken Vince Neil up on the fight, or the guy some the magazine. He just strikes me as unclean in many ways, I don't need to catch anything from getting his blood on me

Slayer was real danger. no doubt. A lot of the shows I saw at the Omni in Oakland, and uh oh god was the name of the clubs in SF...?.. anyway yeah there was a lot of really dangerous bands out there (mostly because the fans were dangerous) but G&R was easily digested where Slayer wasn't a band someones mom is likely to sing along with. "Safely dangerous" maybe?

[Endrik]

I think the only dangerous thing about Slayer is their god awful guitar sound

[eakinj]

I believe you would be positively welcomed if you were to instigate a little fist action with the drummer.

actually Riki is a friend of a friend of mine (not sure how close but she's never had problems getting tickets to back stage stuff and other events from him)

ok, lemme get something straight, the fight stuff, was when I was 18-22 when I felt I could kick their asses. I'm 38 and fat now, I don't think I could fight my way out of a paper bag.

I might be able to take Ozzy in a fist fight now, but even that's iffy

[åron]

Slayer was real danger. no doubt. A lot of the shows I saw at the Omni in Oakland, and uh oh god was the name of the clubs in SF...?.. anyway yeah there was a lot of really dangerous bands out there (mostly because the fans were dangerous) but G&R was easily digested where Slayer wasn't a band someones mom is likely to sing along with. "Safely dangerous" maybe?

The Stone! Well that was the sister club to the Omni. G'n'R was dangerous with their lyrics. I think it's hard to look dangerous in a top hat, bike shorts or a kilt.

I think the only dangerous thing about Slayer is their god awful guitar sound

Sounds good with ear plugs in. Funny thing. I survived and actually enjoyed moshing at thrash and death metal shows all over the SFBA with just bruises and headaches. I got beat to a pulp at a Nirvana show. :ROTF:

G'n'R made some good music. Fuckall, G'n'R got my kid sister off of New Kids on The Block :ROTF:!

[VitaminG]

G'n'R made some good music. Fuckall, G'n'R got my kid sister off of New Kids on The Block :ROTF:!

Now there is some dangerous music! "woooooah. We're hangin' tough!"

and he just strikes me as someone who would bite and scratch and probably litterally try to bite your manhood off.

well, if he does that, he doesn't get the $20. I like a firm but gentle lover....especially when I'm paying

[eakinj]

well, if he does that, he doesn't get the $20. I like a firm but gentle lover....especially when I'm paying

iew... just iew.... really just f-n IEW. hahahaha

[Alvin_Wilson]

My sister in law spent the night in jail with Axl in Atlanta. She got him to autograph a couple of things. Funny thing is she was like 40 at the time and didnt even know who in the hell he was. She got the autographs for my wife who at the time was more of a Thompson Twins/Tears for Fears type of girl, LOL. She gave them to my wife and she was like, who is this guy?

Was that the show where he was arrested for jumping off stage and fighting a security guard? GnR were opening for Motley Crue that night. I was at that show.

[Bengal]

Well I think the biggest difference was really how they looked, they weren't all dolled up like Posion, they were much grungier looking. I know they appealed a lot more to my friends who were still listening to Led Zeppelin then my friends who listened to Metallica. I dunno, I liked them, I would have liked to see them live. I think 90% of the appeal to them now is the mystery of will an album happen or more importantly how badly is the suck going to be that comes from it.

No, not acel being tough. far from. But you'd have to be out of your mind to get into a fist fight with a heroin junky (i'm not saying axl is, just using it as an example) and he just strikes me as someone who would bite and scratch and probably litterally try to bite your manhood off. Not to mention unless you knocked him cleanly out, I don't think he would stop, don't think he's smart enough to throw in a towl. No if he was actually tough he would have taken Vince Neil up on the fight, or the guy some the magazine. He just strikes me as unclean in many ways, I don't need to catch anything from getting his blood on me

Slayer was real danger. no doubt. A lot of the shows I saw at the Omni in Oakland, and uh oh god was the name of the clubs in SF...?.. anyway yeah there was a lot of really dangerous bands out there (mostly because the fans were dangerous) but G&R was easily digested where Slayer wasn't a band someones mom is likely to sing along with. "Safely dangerous" maybe?

You make some good points there. I hear you...

I wouldn't want his blood on me either!

And you are right, it was the Slayer fans that made the concerts more interesting...

As for the guitar tone? Not the best, I'll grant that. But it's fuckin' Slayer man...