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BAD TONE:
George Lynch - way too bright
Randy Rhoads - too nasal
Robert Cray - too bright, lacking depth
Eric Johnson - distortion is too compressed, lacks dynamics
Yngwie Malmsteen - to thin and brittle (a strat bridge pickup can sound good).
Rage Against the Machine guy - too gimmiky (plus no phrasing ability)
Santana - too flute-y
To compare these are the benchmarks for good tone:
1. Blues - SRV
2. Clean - SRV Lenny
3. Raw Rock - AC/DC
4. Rock - EVH
5. Classic Les Paul / Marshall sound - Slash
Yes I listen to modern music, just it all gets benchmarked against the above. Also I'm fine with Vai and Satch tone - not the best, but not bad either.
Right I guess I am in the minority. I actually like his tone on Surfin'.
+1. If you were to attempt some of those tapping and legato runs on, say, Jeff Beck's rig (with all of it's "great tone"), it would sound like pop-farts percolating from a moist ass.
Yeah, Satriani has some bad tone going on quite a bit. That cocked wah thing has to go.
Always with me Always with you was mentioned and I have to agree the tone sucks, but Satch's touch and control save the day and make it somewhat enjoyable.
Surprised no one mentioned the guys from System of a Down. I personally like their tone, but I know a lot of people rag on them.
After reading this thread I have come to realize I tend to like those that have a general consensus as having bad tone. I've never been labelled as having bad tone, and ironically I am striving for a Vernon Reid tone myself.
Steve Vai is an amazing talent, but has some of the positively flattest tone in all of rockdom. I think his old boss - Frank Zappa - said it best when he told Vai that he had the tone of a "ham sandwich".
Mick Mars's early Motley Crue had horrible tone. Very high-pitched and nasal. His later stuff - pretty much after SATD - was killer, though.
As to Satch, I think his tone has mostly been killer. Admittedly, though, he has overused the wah in his set-ups at different points in his career. So, if they're a turn-off for you, I can understand why you might not like some of Satch's tones through the years.
Damn, you're reading my mind here I agree with Vai in some ways. I like his Roth era tone a lot, and his live tone is always killer. In general though, his studio tone is pretty boring. Bad Horsie sounds killer, but I think a lot of the is the sound of using a slide for those heavy, down tuned riffs. His tone in Get The Hell Out of Here seems a bit more textured than normal too.
Agree on Mick. Got to love the sound of the pick hitting the 3rd string on the opening riff of Too Fast For Love :ROTF:
Also agree on Satch. It can understand why some find it thin, and the leads can be a bit harsh. That said, his rhythm tones are killer. I prefer Surfin' With the Aliens main riff tone to Crushing Days; just feels brighter but still feels substantial
I never liked Dimebag's tone, but it worked very well in the setting of the band. On it's own... meh. I could never great what people found was so great about the dude from Muse's tone. Always a harsh wall of noise to me when one of their songs comes on. Same for Steph Carpenters tones on a fair amount of Deftones songs. Sometimes it seems pretty full and unique, while other times it's just a wall of harsh noise.
Yeah, Satriani has some bad tone going on quite a bit. That cocked wah thing has to go.
Always with me Always with you was mentioned and I have to agree the tone sucks, but Satch's touch and control save the day and make it somewhat enjoyable.
Back in the day of Surfin's days. I will agree with you, it was pretty much ass. I think his Live tone is just astounding and controlled. He has a great control over his gain and it isn't muddy. His early stuff... yeah... shit.
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