Originally posted by GodOfRhythm
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For example, classical in E Major is all based on E and uses the E Major scale (with an increasing number of exceptions the later in time you go, but it's always based on function, even when it moves into a different key).
Jazz example - E7-Gb9-Fm7-Eb11-E7. Each chord has its own scale over top.
Weird rhythms are not inherent in any genre. There are plenty of 20th century classical composers that used weird rhythms and atonal scales/12-tone system. See Bartok, Schoenberg, Kodaly, etc.
Meshuggah, at least this one song, is very elementary when it comes to rhythms and seemed to be all based around that one root note, which I guess is Bb since people here have said they tune down a half step.
I'm not familiar with the musicians in the band, so I can't say they're not talented. All I'm saying is that this song is extremely boring and does not show any musical talent beyond what a first-year music student would write. It's definitely not jazz.
Now, I don't expect high art music from a metal band. In fact, I expect quite the opposite: just good, catchy tunes/riffs. But to claim Meshuggah's music is some sort of highly complex thing is just silly.
For a metal band that actually does use complex rhythms effectively, see Andromeda (although they are admittedly much softer than br00tal Meshuggah.
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