Fuck yes, Jeff Loomis!

[nsubulysses]

Satch in NOT TRUE

[khabibissell]

Becker was 16-17 when he recorded the Cacophony material, and in between albums you can definitely hear his growth as a guitarist. Go Off! Was way more song orientated, and definitely had way less wankage than the Satch shit. Also, if you really want to question Becker's ability to write instrumentals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z1vn1QAhV4

3:00 seconds, listen from then on, or listen to the whole song. Show me anything Satch has done that is as interesting and emotional than that.

I never once said that Satch was a bad guitarist on any means, but compared to Loomis, he definitely has his short comings. I'm sure Loomis has his short comings compared to satch, but melody, tone, interest, and "wanking", are definitely not his short comings.

That video you posted only validates my point.

[Jacksons Shred]

That video you posted only validates my point.

If anything, it validates my point and your ignorance. Where's the proof of Satch having anything better?

Exactly.

[VitaminG]

That video you posted only validates my point.

If anything, it validates my point and your ignorance. Where's the proof of Satch having anything better?

Exactly.

I know you are but what am I?

[khabibissell]

If anything, it validates my point and your ignorance. Where's the proof of Satch having anything better?

Exactly.

I guess that tune is just "above my head" and I "don't understand it" right?

Jason's story is tragic and he was a talented young guitarist, but it doesn't change the fact that the "song" you posted was nothing more than 5 minute (4:45 seconds to be exact) wankfest. I'm glad you're impressed by it though... that young fella had some great technique.

[nsubulysses]

That Jason Becker song isn't one of the best ones on that CD I don't think. I usually skip that one.

Well, the solo rules though because it rips of Marty!

[GodOfRhythm]

You want good instrumental guitar albums:

Andy Timmons & Guthrie Govan

More musicality than Loomis could ever muster.

/Thread

[Snoogans]

Good instrumental guitar albums?
Mister. Jeff. Beck.
My favourite "shredder" album?
Tony Macalpine's Edge Of Insanity.
But at the end of the day it's all good, right? It would be bloody dull here if we all liked the same stuff.
And the Loomis album is pretty damn good IMHO....

[horns666]

I love Satch, Tony Mac, Jason Becker, Greg Howe, Andy Timmons, Vai, Gilbert, Marty Friedman, and ect..but NONE of them can do what Jeff does and ..visa versa.

You could not put any of our past heros in Nevermore. It would be a step backwards.

[horns666]

You want good instrumental guitar albums:

Andy Timmons & Guthrie Govan

More musicality than Loomis could ever muster.

/Thread

That is an ignorant statement.

[GodOfRhythm]

That is an ignorant statement.

Nah it's not. I'm not a Loomis-fanboy. I love some of his Nevermore stuff, but he's not that amazing imo.

[horns666]

FYI..Jackson Shreds is 16 years old and from what I heard so far could bury any of us under the table. As far as writing goes I'm not too shabby..we owe that to the inspiration of Jeff Loomis. So you have two players here from ages 16 to 44 that drew from the same well. If I were to pick a secondary guitarist from here..it would be Jackson Shreds. Also players like Nick would also be included as well, as well as Gryphon..which seem to more on the same page.

I'm just saying I'd know immediately who I'd hand pick if I were to assemble a band from here..

[horns666]

Nah it's not. I'm not a Loomis-fanboy. I love some of his Nevermore stuff, but he's not that amazing imo.

Cool..well I am a fanboy of Jeff Loomis and think he's by far the best metal guitarist to come along in the last 15 years..so, what's your point.

I guess we shared both of our points..you don't have to agree. It doesn't change what I think or know.

[GodOfRhythm]

FYI..Jackson Shreds is 16 years old and from what I heard so far could bury any of us under the table. As far as writing goes I'm not too shabby..we owe that to the inspiration of Jeff Loomis. So you have two players here from ages 16 to 44 that drew from the same well. If I were to pick a secondary guitarist from here..it would be Jackson Shreds. Also players like Nick would also be included as well, as well as Gryphon..which seem to more on the same page.

I'm just saying I'd know immediately who I'd hand pick if I were to assemble a band from here..

What does that have to do with anything?

Organize a 'chops' contest on the forum, I think you'd be surprised with the results.

Anyways I said my share, as in: I don't think Loomis is that special, so I'm out. Peace.

[khabibissell]

FYI..Jackson Shreds is 16 years old and from what I heard so far could bury any of us under the table. As far as writing goes I'm not too shabby..we owe that to the inspiration of Jeff Loomis. So you have two players here from ages 16 to 44 that drew from the same well. If I were to pick a secondary guitarist from here..it would be Jackson Shreds. Also players like Nick would also be included as well, as well as Gryphon..which seem to more on the same page.

I'm just saying I'd know immediately who I'd hand pick if I were to assemble a band from here..

"Bury" any of us in what way? Because he can play fast? Sweep cleanly? I never knew skill as a musician is based solely on technical skill. Does that make him the sole authority on what music is good?

You're right... he can play sweeps better than me so I'd better take his word on who is a "better" guitar player or who makes better music.

Look, I'm not putting down any of the guitar players I've mentioned in my posts. I think they all have great qualities, its just that the over the top shred thing bores the hell out of me. Too much of anything is never a good thing...