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    Beautiful melody! How do you classify this type of music? Instrumental rock, jazz rock, etc?

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    I would say fusion.

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    • #3
      Jazz/Fusion. Guthrie Govan is the man.
      Originally posted by horns666
      The only thing I choke during sex is, my chicken..especially when I wanna glaze my wife's buns.

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      • #4
        Any other recommendations of jazz/fusion guitar music in the same melodic line as Guthrie Govan?

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        • #5
          Well, Shawn Lane is probably Guthrie's biggest influence. Shawn Lane - Powers Of Ten is probably "the" jazz/fusion album.
          Originally posted by horns666
          The only thing I choke during sex is, my chicken..especially when I wanna glaze my wife's buns.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Jacksons Shred View Post
            Well, Shawn Lane is probably Guthrie's biggest influence. Shawn Lane - Powers Of Ten is probably "the" jazz/fusion album.

            Shawn Lane is fantastic.
            Also check out Frank Gambale

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            • #7
              Thank god i still have my "Powers of 10" CD...very hard to find now..
              An epic!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by jgcable View Post
                Shawn Lane is fantastic.
                Also check out Frank Gambale
                these 2 for me are THE kings , Gambale's technique is awesome
                Say, I smell bacon.Does anyone else smell bacon?
                Yeah, I definitely smell a pork product of some type.

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                • #9
                  Genre noob question: Doesn't the word "Fusion" already denote a, uh, fusing, if you will, of other music styles? How come it's Jazz-Fusion still then? Keep in mind, I don't know much about either genre.

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                  • #10
                    Not sure, maybe they think it borders more to jazz than rock or something? I think I remember reading Pat Metheny hating the term "fusion" for some reason I can't remember right now. I'm actually not sure what I'd call Allan Holdsworth's music but that guy is like Shawn Lane in some ways, he's in his own dimension. I don't understand the way his mind works but I can still enjoy the music. And if there is a god or some sort of divine power in the universe then Shawn Lane was a gift from above.

                    Here's a beautiful tribute to Shawn's memory

                    Rest in peace, Shawn.Created by Dave B.http://www.instrumentalcase.nethttp://www.facebook.com/instrumentalcase
                    "This ain't no Arsenio Hall show, destroy something!"

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by slash-ed View Post
                      Genre noob question: Doesn't the word "Fusion" already denote a, uh, fusing, if you will, of other music styles? How come it's Jazz-Fusion still then? Keep in mind, I don't know much about either genre.
                      people started using "Fusion" to name a musical style when jazz artists like Miles Davis, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Return To Forever etc. came out with a new style of jazz which used elements of rock, latin, r'n'b etc. Fusion of different music styles but jazz still being the dominant one.
                      Over the years many other musical fusions were born and which didn't necessarily include jazz elements. Some people called those new styles of music also a "Fusion". But to prevent a lot of misunderstanding, people started using an extra word which would characterize the most dominant style in a particular fusion music to name the musical style. Hence jazz-fusion.
                      The same thing with hardcore. Hardcore was first used to name a really aggressive style of punk, like Black Flag or Bad Brains. But in the electronic music world there were bunch of aggressive stuff also made. But to prevent confusion people started using terms like "Hardcore Punk" and "Hardcore Techno" etc.
                      Anyway, fusion and all it's different versions are pretty useful when it's difficult to describe some type of music. Over the years the usage of some term changes. In a traditional sense jazz fusion guitarists would be Al Di Meola, Allan Holdsworth, John McLaughlin, Larry Coryell etc. jazz players who combine other music elements.
                      More modern players, like some described in this thread, are more instrumental rock guitarists but they also use jazz and other elements which causes confusion and therefore they are also often called fusion or jazz-fusion.
                      "There is nothing more fearful than imagination without taste" - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

                      "To be stupid, selfish and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost" - Gustave Flaubert

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                      • #12
                        Cool, very informative, thanks Endrik.

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                        • #13
                          jazz fusion was originally called "jazz rock" back in the early '70s. The fusion label only popped up later when more R&B/funk and pop elements started creeping in. At this point, 'fusion' has so many different influences, including Indian, Latin, and modern classical, that trying to classify it is probably silly.

                          I will say that I tend to see any kind of electric instrumental music, including stuff like Satriani, labeled as "fusion" by lazy reviewers etc. I think of fusion as more experimental and having a stronger connection to jazz than instrumental rock or shred guitar stuff. Govan's solo album isn't fusion in my book, but his live band does that sort of stuff.

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                          • #14
                            today "jazz rock" is used for bands like Steely Dan
                            "There is nothing more fearful than imagination without taste" - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

                            "To be stupid, selfish and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost" - Gustave Flaubert

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Guitardude86 View Post
                              Not sure, maybe they think it borders more to jazz than rock or something? I think I remember reading Pat Metheny hating the term "fusion" for some reason I can't remember right now. I'm actually not sure what I'd call Allan Holdsworth's music but that guy is like Shawn Lane in some ways, he's in his own dimension. I don't understand the way his mind works but I can still enjoy the music. And if there is a god or some sort of divine power in the universe then Shawn Lane was a gift from above.

                              Here's a beautiful tribute to Shawn's memory

                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmy3zKBRsg8
                              ****
                              Thanks for posting this vid..i had not seen it.. Cry'ed like a baby!
                              This one kills me everytime.. from the fastest shredder ever..comes
                              this gem of "soul" and emotion"...

                              Noone had seemed to post any epilogue for lisa footage yet, so I thought i'd post. :).Such a beautiful song.

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