Classic songs by legendary bands performed by the "wrong" line up of that band.

[Carbuff]

Aerosmith "Train Kept a Rollin", without Joe Perry.
One of the coolest songs Joe didn't play, but got credit for too often.

Yeah, that would be Hunter/Wagner as opposed to Perry/Whitford. Theres a youtube video of them playing live in 1974 on the Midnight Special and the guitars are terrible. I guess it took them a while to perfect it.

Oh, and I love Dio Sabbath. But if you guys mean Dio singing Ozzy stuff, I guess. Its a different vibe and all.

[Endrik]

Apart from THIS one you mean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbrSAP9xAvk

According to Anthony Kiedis' book "Scar Tissue" having Navarro in the band basically was like having Jack Sherman in the band again. Sherman who was drafted in for the recording of the RHCP debut album when Hillel Slovak was tied to a contract for another band called "What's this?", was a real nerdy kind of player who would triple check his gear, read the stars and do a prayer before even playing a note and would always work out what he was gonna play in advance. The reason why Sherman was accepted as a Chili pepper was that WHEN Sherman started to play he became a monster, fluid and virtuosic. But because the other Chili Peppers were screwing around with him so much, changing the setting on his amp and on his pedal, or unplugging his guitar during a gig just to loosen him up. His time with the Peppers was limited to only one album, regardless of that, Sherman has the honor of being the very first Chili Peppers guitarist to be immortalised on a recording.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmX6HFyKYFw

"True men don't kill Coyotes" The only RHCP music Video in which Jack Sherman appears.

Navarro according to "Scar Tissue" basically was the same story, quadruply checking his gear, working out his solos in advance, coming up with amazing tunes. But he wasn't a Jam player and the best of the RHCP's music was written during jam sessions and during his stint with the Peppers Navarro never attended a Jam session and simply didn't bond as friends with his fellow bandmembers

The reason why he ultimately declined was that Zappa told him to quit doing heroin.

Frusciante still can shred with the best of them though, listen to his work on the Mars Volta album "Frances the mute" and most notably on "L 'via L 'viaquez" to really hear him buring up the fretboard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14i_MpkeAO4

The RHCP live in 1989, see the 16 year old Frusciante tearing it up on his Ibanez RG, a rare pre-strat occurence.

well Navarro is a jammer too (not his main thing though) but maybe not with RHCP but with his other stuff... anyway I think his ideas sounded cool with RHCP... some very psychedelic stuff, some Zep-ish vibe also some metal elements and whatnot
anyway when Frusciante came back they didn't make songs by jamming anyway anymore... during the early days it was all jam... like classic funk everything was built around the bass grooves but all the last albums are mostly written

[Endrik]

anyway Blood Sugar Sex Magik and One Hot Minute both have amazing production... some of the Rick Rubin's highlights... the tunes just flow so fell but also both strove away from classic RHCP sound... Flea didn't slap at all on BSSM but jeez how fucking heavy the rhythm section sounds... Flea and Chad beat the shit out of their instruments... the rhythm section is so tight and massive... Flea used to play so hard that his hands would bleed... definitely the school of Louis Johnson... and on those albums he made his bass really driving... using overdriven sounds and whatnot. The difference was that on One Hot Minute the guitar was also heavy... I guess many old school fans didn't like it but I don't have any problem with that. I mean listen to T.M. Stevens... one of the greatest funk musicians but these days his bass is down tuned, ridiculously overdriven and a lot of effects (mostly octave) and all his guitar players play "heavy".... more like Tony Iommi than Nile Rodgers for example

[Tetsuo]

Apart from THIS one you mean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbrSAP9xAvk

According to Anthony Kiedis' book "Scar Tissue" having Navarro in the band basically was like having Jack Sherman in the band again. Sherman who was drafted in for the recording of the RHCP debut album when Hillel Slovak was tied to a contract for another band called "What's this?", was a real nerdy kind of player who would triple check his gear, read the stars and do a prayer before even playing a note and would always work out what he was gonna play in advance. The reason why Sherman was accepted as a Chili pepper was that WHEN Sherman started to play he became a monster, fluid and virtuosic. But because the other Chili Peppers were screwing around with him so much, changing the setting on his amp and on his pedal, or unplugging his guitar during a gig just to loosen him up. His time with the Peppers was limited to only one album, regardless of that, Sherman has the honor of being the very first Chili Peppers guitarist to be immortalised on a recording.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmX6HFyKYFw

"True men don't kill Coyotes" The only RHCP music Video in which Jack Sherman appears.

Navarro according to "Scar Tissue" basically was the same story, quadruply checking his gear, working out his solos in advance, coming up with amazing tunes. But he wasn't a Jam player and the best of the RHCP's music was written during jam sessions and during his stint with the Peppers Navarro never attended a Jam session and simply didn't bond as friends with his fellow bandmembers

The reason why he ultimately declined was that Zappa told him to quit doing heroin.

Frusciante still can shred with the best of them though, listen to his work on the Mars Volta album "Frances the mute" and most notably on "L 'via L 'viaquez" to really hear him buring up the fretboard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14i_MpkeAO4

The RHCP live in 1989, see the 16 year old Frusciante tearing it up on his Ibanez RG, a rare pre-strat occurence.

Man I didn't even know about Jack Sherman, I have Scar Tissue sitting on my shelf to be read but I am reading 10 books right now literally and don't have time for it. I am not a big RHCP fan (I love the Frusciante Solo stuff I just relate to that crazy junkie) but I had never even known there was a 4th guitarist in the band. I thought it was Slovak, Frusciante and Navarro.

Dave is really a great guitarist IMHO. I love his work especially a song like Three Days but he surely didn't fit stylewise with RHCP. When Guns N Roses was thinking of adding him that made much more sense to me.

[Endrik]

Dave is really a great guitarist IMHO. I love his work especially a song like Three Days but he surely didn't fit stylewise with RHCP.me.

maybe... but this is still way cooler than any of the "By The Way" type of stuff, I mean even look wise.. it's a mixture of Monster Magnet and some weird 80's gothic freak-show

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQymHzyJ_M4&feature=related

[Tetsuo]

I liked Frusciante on BTW it was some space rock stuff. The thing is that whole album only featured Frusciante, Smith and Flea just weren't present.

[MartinBarre]

Tim Owens with Priest. His performance on "Live Meltdown" is just fantastic.
And Priest also produced one true classic song with Tim in the band IMO - "Burn In Hell".

[blackendvampire]

Heres a suggestion im sure no one thought of, even though this is an old thread... April wine.

[Blazer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttWlCriMJYc

Yes - "Owner of a lonely heart"

Jon Anderson wasn't there but Trevor Rabin did a KILLER job on the vocals, note also Steve Howe, who didn't even play on the original but he makes this song his own...

[Maximum_Crunch]

Danzig. It's a shame the original lineup didn't make it.

[dtt001]

Tim did a commendable job in defending the faith -so to speak. He put a stamp on Diamonds by going back to the Baez acoustic roots with KK and Tipton. His version on the same "Live Meltdown" (if memory serves-ipod has nixed full records for me) works just ever so slightly better than Halford actually doing the acoustic version after rejoining. Don't recall Halford on an acoustic version prior to departure.

Still having seen Tim in concert with them at the time, there was just something off. Somehow there is always that desire for the "original" lineup for favorite bands. Nostalgia or just desire to remember that first concert, both, neither...not sure what it is. Of course I can't go too far down this line of thinking, they have changed drummers. Notwithstanding...still one of my all time favorite bands. Thanks.

[Dreamland_Rebel]

Danzig. It's a shame the original lineup didn't make it.

i don't want to see or hear Glen without John Christ, Erie Vaghn, and Chuck Biscuits.

i also don't want to hear or see David Gilmore singing songs that Roger Waters sang lead on. yeeeeeeeeeeeuk!

[Blazer]

i also don't want to hear or see David Gilmore singing songs that Roger Waters sang lead on. yeeeeeeeeeeeuk!

Why, it's the only way you can hear those tunes sung IN KEY because let's be honest, Waters must be tone deaf what his singing is concerned...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvH127PFmcY

Pink Floyd "Wish you were here" at Live8 and Water's vocals on the second verse make my toenails curl inwards.

[gregthatshreds]

the new guy is badass , saw them a couple years ago with jeff scott soto, he was nailin it too, the drummer sang open arms and faithfully, very strange to me, but he nailed it