Metallica or Megadeth?

[ZaeYeL]

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I mostly agree with Venomboy

[Venomboy]

Loved Metallica till AJFA. The Black Album, some good, catchy songs, but I feel like they left all the good parts out. Their best production, sound wise at that point in time.

Megadeth, loved up to RIP. HATED almost everything after that. Countdown, Youthanasia, those to me were their Black Albums...the good stuff was gone.

HOWEVER...

I feel Dave and Co. kept growing as players and while the songs began to suck, they kept their chops up.

Kirk tried to be a bluesman and do Sykes/Meniketti soulful fills and solos and just could not cut it. He's like the 10th grader at guitar center with the bad vibrato who can never quite nail a harmony. He was fantastic up until AJFA. I know he rushed those solos, but to me they are pretty lifeless.

Lars became a plodding drummer during the Black Album. Almost every beat sounds the same. Doong. Shhh. Doong. Shhh. Dut dut dut dut....Doong. Shhh. Pathetic.

James has to yodel because he can't growl anymore.

I'm a Bay Area guy and will always have a soft spot for Metallica because I was there from the very first record.

Megadeth I think always had a quirkiness that really appealed to me. I don't see Newc's point about Megadeth copying Metallica. Dave is an angry guy and will pretty much write sarcastic songs about any subject.

Post-breakup Megadeth...there's some really good moments and some crap.

I think Megadeth is still thrashing. Still haven't lost their chops. Through all the lineup changes they always sounded like Megadeth.

Metallica...there's just nothing unique about them anymore. The new record, I think it sucks. There's a few good riffs but that's about it.

I'm gonna give Megadeth the edge here.

[KBRR]

I love both bands , old metallica and old megadeth are awesome , new metallica sucks and new megadeth is alright so megadeth gets my vote

[Jacksons Shred]

RIP was ok, but AJFA was better-written.

To me Megadeth and Metallica are the Judas Priest and Iron Maiden of Thrash - you cannot have one without the other, both have fans that are loyal to only one or the other, and both appeal to both groups of fans.

Musically, as well, both have their own thing going on. Metallica did the technically proficient thing for a while, then settled into a more "radio-friendly" solo and song structure format, and Megadeth stayed with the technicality. At the very least, they tried to go for a more "radio-friendly" sound but went back to their roots and accepted life without constant radio play.

However, if we look at both bands from their debut to "the point they stopped rocking and started sucking", most agree that Black was Metallica's sucking point, and Risk was Megadeth's sucking point (Breadline, anyone?)

So that gives at least 4 albums for each band, covering their "innocent youth" to their "grownup" stages.

Metallica:
Kill 'em All
Ride The Lightning
Master Of Puppets
And Justice For All


Megadeth:
Killing Is My Business...
Peace Sells...
So Far, So Good, So What
Rust In Peace

Megadeth have always seemed, to me, to be copying Metallica in terms of album content/theme.

If you're going in albums up until risk, you're forgetting Countdown, Youthanasia and Cryptic Writtings..

I remember watching that Lars said he was a huge fan of Rust in Peace, and Dave was apart of Metallica, so obviously they were similar, and if one piece of another band leaves, there's always going to be that similar sound.

[Newc]

RIP was ok, but AJFA was better-written.

To me Megadeth and Metallica are the Judas Priest and Iron Maiden of Thrash - you cannot have one without the other, both have fans that are loyal to only one or the other, and both appeal to both groups of fans.

Musically, as well, both have their own thing going on. Metallica did the technically proficient thing for a while, then settled into a more "radio-friendly" solo and song structure format, and Megadeth stayed with the technicality. At the very least, they tried to go for a more "radio-friendly" sound but went back to their roots and accepted life without constant radio play.

However, if we look at both bands from their debut to "the point they stopped rocking and started sucking", most agree that Black was Metallica's sucking point, and Risk was Megadeth's sucking point (Breadline, anyone?)

So that gives at least 4 albums for each band, covering their "innocent youth" to their "grownup" stages.

Metallica:
Kill 'em All
Ride The Lightning
Master Of Puppets
And Justice For All


Megadeth:
Killing Is My Business...
Peace Sells...
So Far, So Good, So What
Rust In Peace

Now, if we look at these releases as the competition Mustaine intended them to be, we see Dave "stuck" in a Punk-influenced, angry teenager mode over 3 albums, while Metallica have gone from Punk-influenced, angry teenager mode to "aware of the larger world outside the street I live on and my own personal life".

So that puts Metallica ahead of Megadeth for growing up a little bit.

Megadeth have always seemed, to me, to be copying Metallica in terms of album content/theme.

I consider RIP to be Megadeth's version of MOP - particularly in regards to Disposable Heroes vs Take No Prisoners - "you will die, when i say, you must die - back to the front" vs "love and war say all is fair, take his life but won't take his hair, your body parts your country spares, by the way son here's your wheelchair".


I don't compare One to Take No Prisoners, though the subject matter is closer, because the music for One is more structured to build on the theme first presented by Disposable Heroes, whereas Take No Prisoners doesn't have a pre-existing "theme" to serve as its base other than Peace Sells.


So, in the end, Metallica expanded beyond the overcrowded Metal genre to compete with bands who were copping Hetfield's vocal style, which is the most-identifiable trait of a given band when the playing field gets as crowded as it is. Most folks considered this wimping out on Metal, but Metal doesn't live long anyway. You can choose to die with it or change course. Megadeth will die with Metal, and Metallica will circle back around to it when too many bands cop their old sound and it becomes popular again.

[Phantom Hawk]

I have to go with Megadeth. The first 4 Metallica albums are awesome, but anything after AJFA I'm not much into. Megadeth has been more consistant with great songs and although RIP is my favorite, I can listen to any Mega cd and like it.

[BeholdTheFallen]

i'm placing my vote simply with the band who has the greater number of songs that i love. and thats Metallica.

[guitarsjb]

Several years ago I would have said Metallica. In the past few years Megadeth has been more consistent and put out more good stuff, for me anyway.

[guitardudeluke]

i voted megadeth because i love megadeth but i also love metallica i jus prefer megadeth for sum reason why cant they alll be friends lol

[Wylde06]

Gonna have to go with Megadeth. Yes, I do like Metallica, but not near as much as Megadeth.

[SEEGERMANY]

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[Rsmacker]

Metallica for me, I can't get on with any Megadeth after So far so good, I really tried to get into RIP but for I just don't like it.

also up to St Anger Metallica didn't put a foot wrong in my book (yes, I like load and reload!)

My thoughts precisely.

[toejam]

Classic Metallica is awesome..but I'm much more partial to Megadeth.

+1.

[toejam]

Going with Metallica.
As a band, they are solid players on each instrument.Lars is blasting those drums, James & Kurt are trading stuff back and forth ...

Megadeth, while making some great guitar rock songs, have had a revolving cast and FOR ME, it's hard to be loyal to a band if you're not sure who is in it right now.

That's funny you're loyal to a band when YOU are not sure who is in it. There's never been a guy named Kurt in Metallica.

[Hellbat]

I prefer Metallica with Cliff Burton to Megadeth with Marty Friedman by a slight edge. Both bands without those musicians are a shadow of what they are with them.