Metallica or Megadeth?

[KBRR]

I love both bands , old metallica and old megadeth are awesome , new metallica sucks and new megadeth is alright so megadeth gets my vote

[Venomboy]

Loved Metallica till AJFA. The Black Album, some good, catchy songs, but I feel like they left all the good parts out. Their best production, sound wise at that point in time.

Megadeth, loved up to RIP. HATED almost everything after that. Countdown, Youthanasia, those to me were their Black Albums...the good stuff was gone.

HOWEVER...

I feel Dave and Co. kept growing as players and while the songs began to suck, they kept their chops up.

Kirk tried to be a bluesman and do Sykes/Meniketti soulful fills and solos and just could not cut it. He's like the 10th grader at guitar center with the bad vibrato who can never quite nail a harmony. He was fantastic up until AJFA. I know he rushed those solos, but to me they are pretty lifeless.

Lars became a plodding drummer during the Black Album. Almost every beat sounds the same. Doong. Shhh. Doong. Shhh. Dut dut dut dut....Doong. Shhh. Pathetic.

James has to yodel because he can't growl anymore.

I'm a Bay Area guy and will always have a soft spot for Metallica because I was there from the very first record.

Megadeth I think always had a quirkiness that really appealed to me. I don't see Newc's point about Megadeth copying Metallica. Dave is an angry guy and will pretty much write sarcastic songs about any subject.

Post-breakup Megadeth...there's some really good moments and some crap.

I think Megadeth is still thrashing. Still haven't lost their chops. Through all the lineup changes they always sounded like Megadeth.

Metallica...there's just nothing unique about them anymore. The new record, I think it sucks. There's a few good riffs but that's about it.

I'm gonna give Megadeth the edge here.

[ZaeYeL]

+1
I mostly agree with Venomboy

[Newc]

If you're going in albums up until risk, you're forgetting Countdown, Youthanasia and Cryptic Writtings..

I remember watching that Lars said he was a huge fan of Rust in Peace, and Dave was apart of Metallica, so obviously they were similar, and if one piece of another band leaves, there's always going to be that similar sound.

Yeah I meant to say Cryptic Writings, not Risk, and that I liked those albums up until Risk. Some sort of editing error on my part.

[wetrx95]

I'm gonna have to jump in on the Metallica bandwagon. When I was a kid found Lightning and that was that. I was already messing around with guitar listening to Priest, Maiden, and others of that genre. This album just threw everything out the window. The sound was just absolutely crushing, the timing perfect, and the lyrics 'thought provoking.' Metallica is not afraid to put it out there. They say what's on their mind and change their sound, why, because they want to. They 'evolve', but, everytime I see them they're still tearing up the classics. I think Creeping Death is a staple. I try to see them whenever they're around. Oh, I like all their albums except St. Anger. I don't know where the hell that one came from... I was very happy with the latest when Lars put ye ol' double bass into overdrive once again.

Megadeth is really awesome as well. The band really hasn't changed since it's inception which isn't necessarily a bad thing. The musicians are fantastic (especially Marty) and Dave's lyrics can be mind blowing at times. I just HATE his voice. Half the time it sounds like he's trying to squeeze one out. I do like their later albums. Train of Concsequences just gets my head moving.

My 2 cents.

Let the beatings begin...

[Snoogans]

I like and dislike them both. However, if they both released new albums tomorrow, I know that I'd prefer the Megadeth one. Likewise, if they were both playing nearby on the same night, I'd be at the Megadeth show...

[Rsmacker]

Only because Megadeth would be playing Rock City, and you could walk up on the night and buy a ticket. Metallica would be at the NEC, sold out months in advance.

[ilbianconero]

Of the 2, Megadeth.
Don't even have any Metallica albums.

[Jacksons Shred]

I have to say, I'm pretty damn surprised that Megadeth is "winning" this pole. I thought I would be crucified for liking Deth over Tallica.. I think we all almost feel the same though, I use to like Metallica a lot more, but over the years I've started to like Deth more.

[guitarman1234]

I'm more into technical music so megadeth by a longshot.

[roodyrocker]

I have always found from the early days that I can tolerate Metallica only for about 1 song then they bore me. Megadeth smokes Metallica in my book, its not even close. I know Metallica is more successful commercially but I don't care, Megadeth is a better band and definetly not as boring. As Butthead says: "Sit your ass back down Lars and play the drums like you're supposed to!"

[Grandturk]

I have to say, I'm pretty damn surprised that Megadeth is "winning" this pole. I thought I would be crucified for liking Deth over Tallica.. I think we all almost feel the same though, I use to like Metallica a lot more, but over the years I've started to like Deth more.

Nah, here, the only band that gets more shit than MegaDave is McHetfield.

[orion451]

Wow. This isn't even a close contest. To think that it is is to delude oneself. One of the bands is basically one of the top 5 rock bands of all time and the other merely draws a cult following (the majority of which are musicians themselves). Forget about individual opinion, let's go to the objective evidence--the free market indicates Metallica albums outsell Megadeth albums by several orders of magnitude. This is really the only objective way to declare a winner--basing it on the summation of all opinions as communicated by the market.

This isn't to say that there's anything wrong with a given individual preferring Megadeth. I myself like them. Personally, I'd break it down like this.

Singing - Metallica (this isn't even close. Hetfield sounds like he has 8 testicles full of testosterone; Mustaine whines like a girl at times).

Riff quality - Metallica (the edge here is slight, but Hetfield just has more killer riffs).

Lead guitar - Tie (Megadeth has better shredders, Hammett has more soul, though).

Lyrics - Metallica (Not even close here. Some of the Mustaine first person, soliloquy shit is quite retarded).

Song quality - Metallica (the overall vibe of Hetfield's stuff is just more dominating).

Live - Metallica (no concert I've ever been to can match the energy level of pre-1991 Metallica).

If Metallica stopped making albums after Metallica Black, they'd still be considered the better band, so there's no way that their subsequent subpar work can detract from their earlier greatness.

Bottom line: anybody who is into metal owns some Metallica albums, anybody who plays metal guitar knows some Metallica songs. The same things are not true about Megadeth.

[orion451]

I have to say, I'm pretty damn surprised that Megadeth is "winning" this pole.

I'm not surprised at all that in a Jackson/Charvel forum Megadeth would be preferred--this is precisely the minority demographic that buys Megadeth's stuff. But among almost all other demographics, it's pretty clear that Metallica stuff is far more popular.

[Jacksons Shred]

Wow. This isn't even a close contest. To think that it is is to delude oneself. One of the bands is basically one of the top 5 rock bands of all time and the other merely draws a cult following (the majority of which are musicians themselves). Forget about individual opinion, let's go to the objective evidence--the free market indicates Metallica albums outsell Megadeth albums by several orders of magnitude. This is really the only objective way to declare a winner--basing it on the summation of all opinions as communicated by the market.

This isn't to say that there's anything wrong with a given individual preferring Megadeth. I myself like them. Personally, I'd break it down like this.

Singing - Metallica (this isn't even close. Hetfield sounds like he has 8 testicles full of testosterone; Mustaine whines like a girl at times).

Riff quality - Metallica (the edge here is slight, but Hetfield just has more killer riffs).

Lead guitar - Tie (Megadeth has better shredders, Hammett has more soul, though).

Lyrics - Metallica (Not even close here. Some of the Mustaine first person, soliloquy shit is quite retarded).

Song quality - Metallica (the overall vibe of Hetfield's stuff is just more dominating).

Live - Metallica (no concert I've ever been to can match the energy level of pre-1991 Metallica).

If Metallica stopped making albums after Metallica Black, they'd still be considered the better band, so there's no way that their subsequent subpar work can detract from their earlier greatness.

Bottom line: anybody who is into metal owns some Metallica albums, anybody who plays metal guitar knows some Metallica songs. The same things are not true about Megadeth.

Before I say this, I'm going to make it clear that I am a big Metallica fan, if you would have asked me a few years ago I would have disregarded Megadeth in a heartbeat and chosen Metallica.

You're theory on that if a band sells more = better is highly flawed. There are tons of musicians and bands that haven't sold millions of albums because they don't have label support, or the era of when they're around. It's not fair to say because Metallica is more radio friendly that they're better. I can't think of a time I've heard any HEAVY Metallica songs on the radio outside of their softer shit.


Singing, yeah, I will give it to Hetfield that I probably do prefer his style of vocals a bit over Mustaines.

Riff wise, Dave Mustaine came up with some of the coolest Metallica shit, Ride the Lightning, anyone? Metallica does have some catchy riffs that I do like, and some of them are pretty technical. Every riff in Holy Wars is equally on par with any great riff Metallica has done.

Lyric wise, I find Megadeths lyrics more personal and have a greater meaning, there are some great lyrics in both bands, but Dave Mustaine is always singing about an issue, whether it be love, hate, anxiety, paranoia, war, politics, there's always a meaning.

I'm sorry, but you're going to be my scapegoat for this one. To say that Hammett has more soul is outrageous, and to even discard Marty or the other Deth guys is pathetic. What makes a guitarist have soul? Please? Tell me? Is it being strung out on acid wanking around shitty pentatonic's while playing an out of tune guitar? Is it just being a wankfest with a wah pedal that gives you soul? Seriously. I really fucking hate this bullshit, just because a guitarist plays outside of the pentatonic box doesn't mean they don't have soul! Granted, there are players *cough Rusty Cooley, Michael Angelo Batio, John Petrucci* that seem as if they lack soul, but they express themselves in a different way. Any guitarist can sit here and bend the shit out of two notes and I'm sure that would be 'soulful', but what's so interesting about that? I'm also not saying that you can't be creative and interesting inside the Pentatonic shapes, because sometimes that's what's right. If playing fast or technical disqualifies soul, then wow. By that theory you're saying Jason Becker, Michael Lee Firkins, Marty Friedman, Yngwie, Tony Macalpine, Al Di Meola, George Lynch, Greg Howe, Guthrie Govan, Shawn Lane, Allan Holdsworth, Steve Morse, Paul Gilbert, Bruce Bouillet, Vinnie Moore, Ed Van Halen, Dimebag Darrell and a large array of other guitarist all lack 'soul'. Which is bullshit.

Also, I'm sorry... But, your bottom line..Can also reworded as "Lots of guitarist own Metallica albums, but the real great can play Megadeth songs!" Both statements are lame.