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  • #61
    Originally posted by orion451 View Post
    Bottom line: anybody who is into metal owns some Metallica albums, anybody who plays metal guitar knows some Metallica songs. The same things are not true about Megadeth.
    bu-bow! Not here, on both counts. And I'm pretty sure I'm into metal and metal guitar. But I've found a lot of fans of a particular band like to project their own experience upon everyone else.

    I had a Metallica album once. A friend taped me a copy of Master of Puppets. It was alright. Welcome Home: Sanitarium (is that what it's called?) was pretty cool. Couldn't say what happened to the tape - it was never listened to so I guess it dissappeared. Oh, and a friend gave me a burnt copy of their last album because their triumphant return was going to blow my mind. I listened to it about a dozen times (to give it a fair hearing) and gave it back to him so that he could gift it to someone who might appreciate it. Bottom line: I have never actually bought any Metallica has released.

    I did learn the opening to Master of Puppets once, but I never bothered with it beyond the intro. That song just goes on and on. and on.

    But then, Metallica wasn't the first metal band I ever heard. By the time I heard Metallica for the first time, I had grown up listening to my dad's Cream & Black Sabbath albums, so I had a taste for crunchy guitars, big riffs & searing solos. And I had moved on to my own tastes in heavy music in Iron Maiden, Gary Moore, Judas Priest, Y&T, Yngwie Malmsteen. When I finally heard Metallica, I appreciated that they were doing their own thing. They were often heavier & faster than other stuff I was listening to, but I also found their songs boring. 16 bars of the main riff before they'd move onto 32 bars of a variation? It wasn't epic - it was repetitive. But all the "new" metal fans who'd just discovered the genre through Metallica were telling me they were the greatest band on the planet and Kirk was the greatest guitarist who ever lived. Whatever. I'll keep listening to my own thing.

    Megadeth, on the other hand, were fresh. Interesting riffs that actually went somewhere, great solos from Poland (and then Young, and then Friedman) that didn't sound like they were just thrown over the song and played as fast as possible like a lot of other thrash bands, topical lyrics. Dave's voice was something I had to get used to, but anyone who touts Jaymz as one of the great metal singers can't really complain too much about Dave, particularly considering his off-key caterwauling in the last decade or so since he took "singing" lessons.
    Last edited by VitaminG; 04-05-2009, 08:48 PM.
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    • #62
      used to like metallica, but after listening to megadeth...man fuck metallica. however, Master of Puppets (the song) it self is a damned good as song (pretty much the only thing thats good from metallica). my point is...MEGADETH > metallica
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      • #63
        Originally posted by orion451 View Post
        You make no sense--how can somebody's opinion be "wrong"? What you mean is that you disagree with me.
        No what i mean is your "opinion" based on album sales to fratboy dickheads to determine who is the "better" band? laughable at best.

        Then again, so are you, but whatever.

        Lyrics? I guess "my lifestyle determines my deathstyle" or what ever "sung" over a trash can beat is good? yeah, fucking whatever.

        And, btw... kirk absolutely SUCKS as a guitarist.
        Last edited by clifffclaven; 04-05-2009, 11:04 PM.
        Its a complete catastrophe. But Im a professional, I can rise above it. LOL

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        • #64
          Man, you guys are idiots. Dont you know that if a band sells more albums they're clearly a better band?
          Originally posted by horns666
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          • #65
            I love metallica but the only real thing i dont like about megadeath is daves singing everything else is fine )

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            • #66
              Originally posted by clifffclaven View Post
              No what i mean is your "opinion" based on album sales to fratboy dickheads to determine who is the "better" band? laughable at best.

              Then again, so are you, but whatever.

              Lyrics? I guess "my lifestyle determines my deathstyle" or what ever "sung" over a trash can beat is good? yeah, fucking whatever.

              And, btw... kirk absolutely SUCKS as a guitarist.
              The only thing laughable here is your reading comprehension.

              Why, after several people have repeatedly stated that the poll isn't about which band is "better", do you retards keep fighting against that poor straw man? Can you not read English? Leave that poor straw man alone! He's had enough.

              You state that you think my opinion is based on album sales. This is not at all what I wrote! AGain, this is a reading comprehension problem. Honestly, what public school did you attend? I want to know what city is wasting the tax payer money...

              My entire point was to find a metric that is independent of any individual opinion to determine which band listeners prefer. Then I stated my own thoughts on the matter for the record. Reread this a couple of times if you're confused--the dictionary is also your friend here.

              As far as the significance of my opinion goes, it's no different than yours: weak when measured against the summation of opinions that the market communicates. The market gives us an objective answer as to which band listeners prefer. If you have a better objective metric, then suggest it. Otherwise it's all just meaningless subjective bullshit.

              And what do you mean btw Kirk sucks as a guitarist. How can it be "by the way" when I already explicitly stated that he sucks?! Seriously, English conversation is not your forte. You may want to stick to your native language, whatever that might be.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by blitz View Post
                I love metallica but the only real thing i dont like about megadeath is daves singing everything else is fine )
                100% agree.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by orion451 View Post
                  Honestly, what public school did you attend? I want to know what city is wasting the tax payer money...
                  your sanctimony comes seriously unstuck when you struggle with basic grammar.


                  Everyone here is overlooking the more pressing issue - how many times can the term "straw man" be used in one thread?
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by VitaminG View Post
                    your sanctimony comes seriously unstuck when you struggle with basic grammar.
                    Ok, Ms. Crabtree, I'll bite. Make the case that I "struggle with basic grammar". Because I left out an apostrophe s? Is that "struggling with basic grammar"?

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                    • #70
                      If you asked me in the 90s, that would have been tough. But by now time has put everything in perspective and it is by a large margin Megadeath for me. On the musical side, musicanship, song writing, lasting legacy. I am not even listening to Metallica anymore, so this is an indication for me for sure.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by VitaminG View Post
                        your sanctimony comes seriously unstuck when you struggle with basic grammar.
                        Piece of advice for you: it's far better to keep your mouth closed and merely appear ignorant, than to open it and remove all doubt.

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                        • #72
                          damn, why is everyone so angry? ^that guy^ just stated who he thinks the general public prefers, his own preference, and listed his reasons why.. No reason for everyone to lose their lunches all over one another.
                          although I have to admit that I love that scene from family guy
                          Peace sells...but whos buying? clearly none of you (sorry I had to)
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by clifffclaven View Post
                            Lyrics? I guess "my lifestyle determines my deathstyle" or what ever "sung" over a trash can beat is good? yeah, fucking whatever.

                            Come on, Dave the Junkie is no better. I mean:

                            "One day I'll dance on your grave, even if you are buried at sea"

                            Straight from the Spinal Tap book of lyrics, hilarious.

                            And as for singing in French, well that seals it for me. As Miss Piggy once said:

                            "Pretentious? Moi?"
                            So I woke up,rolled over and who was lying next to me? Only Bonnie Langford!

                            I nearly broke her back

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by orion451 View Post
                              Piece of advice for you: it's far better to keep your mouth closed and merely appear ignorant, than to open it and remove all doubt.
                              thanks for the advice, but like you, I may choose to ignore it. But not yet.

                              oh, while we're dealing out pithy nuggets of wisdom, I'm sure you've been told the one about fighting on the internet before....
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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by toejam View Post
                                That's funny you're loyal to a band when YOU are not sure who is in it. There's never been a guy named Kurt in Metallica.
                                I know~

                                at least I was close!

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