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  • clifffclaven
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    Originally posted by orion451 View Post
    You make no sense--how can somebody's opinion be "wrong"? What you mean is that you disagree with me.
    No what i mean is your "opinion" based on album sales to fratboy dickheads to determine who is the "better" band? laughable at best.

    Then again, so are you, but whatever.

    Lyrics? I guess "my lifestyle determines my deathstyle" or what ever "sung" over a trash can beat is good? yeah, fucking whatever.

    And, btw... kirk absolutely SUCKS as a guitarist.
    Last edited by clifffclaven; 04-05-2009, 11:04 PM.

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  • laihojrxo
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    used to like metallica, but after listening to megadeth...man fuck metallica. however, Master of Puppets (the song) it self is a damned good as song (pretty much the only thing thats good from metallica). my point is...MEGADETH > metallica

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  • VitaminG
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    Originally posted by orion451 View Post
    Bottom line: anybody who is into metal owns some Metallica albums, anybody who plays metal guitar knows some Metallica songs. The same things are not true about Megadeth.
    bu-bow! Not here, on both counts. And I'm pretty sure I'm into metal and metal guitar. But I've found a lot of fans of a particular band like to project their own experience upon everyone else.

    I had a Metallica album once. A friend taped me a copy of Master of Puppets. It was alright. Welcome Home: Sanitarium (is that what it's called?) was pretty cool. Couldn't say what happened to the tape - it was never listened to so I guess it dissappeared. Oh, and a friend gave me a burnt copy of their last album because their triumphant return was going to blow my mind. I listened to it about a dozen times (to give it a fair hearing) and gave it back to him so that he could gift it to someone who might appreciate it. Bottom line: I have never actually bought any Metallica has released.

    I did learn the opening to Master of Puppets once, but I never bothered with it beyond the intro. That song just goes on and on. and on.

    But then, Metallica wasn't the first metal band I ever heard. By the time I heard Metallica for the first time, I had grown up listening to my dad's Cream & Black Sabbath albums, so I had a taste for crunchy guitars, big riffs & searing solos. And I had moved on to my own tastes in heavy music in Iron Maiden, Gary Moore, Judas Priest, Y&T, Yngwie Malmsteen. When I finally heard Metallica, I appreciated that they were doing their own thing. They were often heavier & faster than other stuff I was listening to, but I also found their songs boring. 16 bars of the main riff before they'd move onto 32 bars of a variation? It wasn't epic - it was repetitive. But all the "new" metal fans who'd just discovered the genre through Metallica were telling me they were the greatest band on the planet and Kirk was the greatest guitarist who ever lived. Whatever. I'll keep listening to my own thing.

    Megadeth, on the other hand, were fresh. Interesting riffs that actually went somewhere, great solos from Poland (and then Young, and then Friedman) that didn't sound like they were just thrown over the song and played as fast as possible like a lot of other thrash bands, topical lyrics. Dave's voice was something I had to get used to, but anyone who touts Jaymz as one of the great metal singers can't really complain too much about Dave, particularly considering his off-key caterwauling in the last decade or so since he took "singing" lessons.
    Last edited by VitaminG; 04-05-2009, 08:48 PM.

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  • ADR
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    Megadeth

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  • orion451
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    Originally posted by clifffclaven View Post
    with the exception of metallica being in the top five metal/rock bands ever, (Ill give you that, only for the reason that every fratboy mook in the U.S. got the black album), youre pretty much wrong on everything here.

    megadeth, by a mile. RIP owns anything metallica ever did, except maybe MOP.
    You make no sense--how can somebody's opinion be "wrong"? What you mean is that you disagree with me. That's cool. Everyone's got their own opinion, and of course all are valid. What I was doing was introducing an objective measure to decide which band is preferred by the most people. The rest of my post was my own personal opinion.

    By the way, the life and actions of Dave Mustaine (all the angst, misery, drug abuse, nearly killing himself, etc.) were largely a result of the consistent domination of Metallica over Megadeth over the past 2 decades. Even Mustaine himself admits this.

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  • roodyrocker
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    Originally posted by joshulator View Post
    Ah! That's what I like about prowrestling. 2 may start the match, but a 3rd person not even involved could be the one standing tall when it's all over.
    I think I see a JCFer pulling out the chair from under the ring now! Watch out, someone is about to get whacked upside their Metallica loving head

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  • joshulator
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    Originally posted by SlaytanicDude View Post
    Slayer.
    Ah! That's what I like about prowrestling. 2 may start the match, but a 3rd person not even involved could be the one standing tall when it's all over.

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  • SlaytanicDude
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    Slayer.

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  • roodyrocker
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    Metallica in the top 5 ever? Hmm, interesting to see who the other 4 are and whether they beat them out or not
    As I stated before, I could care less about what the masses think. What I THINK is that Megadeth takes Metallica to school. They could chew them up and spit them out There are lots of bands that have not sold as well as Metallica commercially but still blow them away in my book. Dream Theater is very much a niche band and I think they would embarass Metallica musically, and yes Petrucci plays with soul so there!

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  • clifffclaven
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    Originally posted by orion451 View Post
    Wow. This isn't even a close contest. To think that it is is to delude oneself. One of the bands is basically one of the top 5 rock bands of all time and the other merely draws a cult following (the majority of which are musicians themselves). Forget about individual opinion, let's go to the objective evidence--the free market indicates Metallica albums outsell Megadeth albums by several orders of magnitude. This is really the only objective way to declare a winner--basing it on the summation of all opinions as communicated by the market.

    This isn't to say that there's anything wrong with a given individual preferring Megadeth. I myself like them. Personally, I'd break it down like this.

    Singing - Metallica (this isn't even close. Hetfield sounds like he has 8 testicles full of testosterone; Mustaine whines like a girl at times).

    Riff quality - Metallica (the edge here is slight, but Hetfield just has more killer riffs).

    Lead guitar - Tie (Megadeth has better shredders, Hammett has more soul, though).

    Lyrics - Metallica (Not even close here. Some of the Mustaine first person, soliloquy shit is quite retarded).

    Song quality - Metallica (the overall vibe of Hetfield's stuff is just more dominating).

    Live - Metallica (no concert I've ever been to can match the energy level of pre-1991 Metallica).

    If Metallica stopped making albums after Metallica Black, they'd still be considered the better band, so there's no way that their subsequent subpar work can detract from their earlier greatness.

    Bottom line: anybody who is into metal owns some Metallica albums, anybody who plays metal guitar knows some Metallica songs. The same things are not true about Megadeth.
    with the exception of metallica being in the top five metal/rock bands ever, (Ill give you that, only for the reason that every fratboy mook in the U.S. got the black album), youre pretty much wrong on everything here.

    megadeth, by a mile. RIP owns anything metallica ever did, except maybe MOP.

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  • Spivonious
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    Hammet has soul????

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  • joshulator
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    To be clear, the poll is asking which do you prefer, not which is better.

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  • Endrik
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    a girl blew me for playing Nothing Else Matters on acoustic, I'm not sure Megadeth will have that effect

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  • orion451
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    Originally posted by Jacksons Shred View Post
    Jesus tap dancing Christ on a stick, next time I'm exposed to this arrogant drivel , please, someone spare me by beating me with a pvc pipe to whipe my memory clean. Now, do you want to continue this little cock slap fetish of yours by making your piss poor attempts to insult me and act like a tough guy? I don't, but if you want to go that route, I'm all in.

    You're theory, yes, theory, that if one band gets more radio play, they're a better band. Which is what you're practically saying and I have to disagree. There are tons of bands that don't get radio playtime, but that doesn't mean the consumers don't want it. I'm not going to argue this any further but if you really want to, you can grab your little Metallica nut hugers and wait ever so quietly for Daddy to return and argue this matter with you. So I'm guessing that since Britney Spears gets way more play time then Metallica, she's a better artist? You're right. I'm wrong. Sorry.

    Although, I can agree that I can't argue opinions with anyone ,because it's simply an opinion. I can state this fact.
    Fact: Marty Friedman, Chris Poland, Jeff Young, all those Megadeth guitarist are better guitarist than Kirk Hammett. Here's another fact, they all write better solos then Kirk, too. You can take the 'listeners' route all you want, but I'm speaking as a guitarist, hell, I'll take your route, you caught me. I remember before I even picked up a guitar, I heard Marty Friedmans Symphony Of Destruction solo and it blew my mind away, and at that time I would have taken a bullet for Metallica solos. You've also strayed away from my original question, what makes a guitarist have soul? Why does Kirk Hammett have more soul then any of those Megadeth players? I'm very open to this subject, because I do agree that Kirk Hammett use to write solos that fit the song pretty well (Werent those Daves solos?), but, I fail to see how he has any more soul than lets say.. Marty Friedman.

    My point of "my" bottom statement was to point out how one sided your bottom statement was. Witty witty me, huh?
    Do you actually read and process the information written in a post before issuing these premenstrual syndromic tirades? I mean you've created like 4 straw men here...

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  • Jack Napalm
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    Does anyone else feel like they are watching a bad Bugs Bunny cartoon?

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