Ozzy ditching Zakk!

[beachjammer]

My biggest thing against Zakk, besides the drunken biker persona, is he hasn't really done anything new with his playing. I can only handle so much pentatonic burning and pinch harmonics. He has the capability and knowledge because I've heard him pull off some mind blowing country chick'n pick'n as well as classical stuff. I may catch some heat for this but it just seems to me that he stays too drunk to get out of the pentatonic, dropped tuned chugging box.... I mean, whatever happened to songs like Fire In The Sky from No Rest For The Wicked?

As for Gus G, I have the Firewind stuff and like it. He's a great player but he's not as identfiable as the other guitarists Ozzy has had. The thing he has going for him though is that he has enough experience, can shred good enough to get the job done and is probably alot cheaper money wise than Zakk is. Since we all know how Sharon is about $$$ ,I'm sure that played a factor in replacing Zakk. Just my opinion though.

[lerxstcat]

I think peoples biggest spike with Zakk is his image. Who gives a flying fuck how he dresses (look at bucket head :LOL: ) Just close your eyes, and get the head banging. Not sexual.

Well yeah, the fact that he's a fake biker poser is one thing that shows he is not for real. But that wouldn't be a big deal if he hadn't let his image be used to rip off a bunch of fans in that whole 357 Customs scam for the so-called free Zakk Les Pauls. He was all about it when he thought he was gonna make some dough off that shit, but as soon as it became obvious that it was a big scam, suddenly he didn't know anything about it. And when he got lawyers involved, it was only to cover his ass, not to try and get something for his fans that got gypped.

So he poses as your pseudo-biker bro, but he doesn't know you when you get fucked on a deal with his name on it. IMO that sucks.

[Jacksons Shred]

Well yeah, the fact that he's a fake biker poser is one thing that shows he is not for real. But that wouldn't be a big deal if he hadn't let his image be used to rip off a bunch of fans in that whole 357 Customs scam for the so-called free Zakk Les Pauls. He was all about it when he thought he was gonna make some dough off that shit, but as soon as it became obvious that it was a big scam, suddenly he didn't know anything about it. And when he got lawyers involved, it was only to cover his ass, not to try and get something for his fans that got gypped.

So he poses as your pseudo-biker bro, but he doesn't know you when you get fucked on a deal with his name on it. IMO that sucks.

I'm sorry if this may seem offensive to you, it's not intended to be.

But seriously, for fucks sakes, will people let that shit go? Do you sincerely think it was Zakk Wylde's intentions to rip off all his fucking fans? Really?

And honestly, you would all be liars if you said you'd want your image pissed all over and ruined because of a scam, of course he's going to get his lawyers involved and what not. You wouldn't want the world saying "Wow that guy is such a fucking asshole HE ripped me off and all of his fans".

Yes I'm sure it sucks to the people that got scammed, but what the fuck is he supposed to do? Get down on his knee's and give every single person who got ripped off a bj?

[Sinistas]

An apology would have been nice.

[toxikdeth]

Wasnt zakk in the hospital today for a blood clot in his leg

[toddstaples]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoY_DuoAShY

[dimobag]

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=125721

Now Ozz has two guitarists

[Rsmacker]

Jake just looks younger and younger, doesn't he?

[lerxstcat]

I'm sorry if this may seem offensive to you, it's not intended to be.

But seriously, for fucks sakes, will people let that shit go? Do you sincerely think it was Zakk Wylde's intentions to rip off all his fucking fans? Really?

And honestly, you would all be liars if you said you'd want your image pissed all over and ruined because of a scam, of course he's going to get his lawyers involved and what not. You wouldn't want the world saying "Wow that guy is such a fucking asshole HE ripped me off and all of his fans".

Yes I'm sure it sucks to the people that got scammed, but what the fuck is he supposed to do? Get down on his knee's and give every single person who got ripped off a bj?

Thing is, he WAS involved in ripping off all those people, by his negligence if nothing else. Then he lied and said he knew nothing about it all when he posed for promo pics on the custom chopper they built for him.

As Sinistas said, he could have apologized and admitted that at the least he didn't check out the company with due diligence. Instead he lied and said he knew nothing about it when it was all over his website for a long time.

Why SHOULD ANYONE let it go? Because YOU like Zakk? No offense, man, but while you have the right to your opinion, you really have no right to be miffed that people who got ripped off are still pissed about it.

Zakk fucked his own rep there, by not checking out who he was dealing with, and then acting like he knew nothing about it. You can bet his fans assumed he checked 357 out and found it to be sound before he let them hawk their shit through his website. He didn't do that, and he should have. End of story.

[chrisolson]

I'll always appreciate Zakk and what he did, but I'm done with BLS. After 1919 Eternal, he just really started BORING me the DEATH. I'd love to see him go back the the Pride & Glory/Book of Shadows stuff. That's when he was at his best. Period.

Ozzy should be put to pasture. The last album wasn't bad, but it was really BLS Light. Nothing against Zakk - he writes how he writes. Ozzy doesn't write any more, so you can't blame Zakk. The Blizzcon performance was a great band performance, but Ozzy really detracted from it. He doesn't have it any more. Not even a 2 on a 10 scale. Maybe he needs to get back on the sauce or something. I dunno...

Let the 357 shit go for God's sake... Yeah, handled MORE than shittily, but for the love of Pete, it's OVER. Move on.

[Jacksons Shred]

Thing is, he WAS involved in ripping off all those people, by his negligence if nothing else. Then he lied and said he knew nothing about it all when he posed for promo pics on the custom chopper they built for him.

As Sinistas said, he could have apologized and admitted that at the least he didn't check out the company with due diligence. Instead he lied and said he knew nothing about it when it was all over his website for a long time.

Why SHOULD ANYONE let it go? Because YOU like Zakk? No offense, man, but while you have the right to your opinion, you really have no right to be miffed that people who got ripped off are still pissed about it.

Zakk fucked his own rep there, by not checking out who he was dealing with, and then acting like he knew nothing about it. You can bet his fans assumed he checked 357 out and found it to be sound before he let them hawk their shit through his website. He didn't do that, and he should have. End of story.

I'll agree he should have apologized, but what I'm saying is why are you guys judging his playing based upon his image and actions? and I could care less, but I just find it annoying that every time his name pops up it's the same old sob story. If people really wanted to do something other then bitch on a internet forum they could write to him personally, get their own lawyers involved, or let it go. I'm sure it sucks but like I mentioned earlier, do you really think it was Zakk Wylde's intentions to rip his fans off?

[GTarman68]

I'll agree he should have apologized, but what I'm saying is why are you guys judging his playing based upon his image and actions? and I could care less, but I just find it annoying that every time his name pops up it's the same old sob story. If people really wanted to do something other then bitch on a internet forum they could write to him personally, get their own lawyers involved, or let it go. I'm sure it sucks but like I mentioned earlier, do you really think it was Zakk Wylde's intentions to rip his fans off?

Well Said..

[paige]

Well one of the good things that can come from all of this, is Zakk wont be so busy pulling double duty all the time, so maybe he put alittle more creativity into bls music. He has the potentional to write some great music, I think he's just pushed so much out lately he hasn't been able to put thought into it.

[lerxstcat]

I'll agree he should have apologized, but what I'm saying is why are you guys judging his playing based upon his image and actions? and I could care less, but I just find it annoying that every time his name pops up it's the same old sob story. If people really wanted to do something other then bitch on a internet forum they could write to him personally, get their own lawyers involved, or let it go. I'm sure it sucks but like I mentioned earlier, do you really think it was Zakk Wylde's intentions to rip his fans off?

His playing is pretty boring to me, it was one thing when he joined Ozzybut he didn't progress. But yeah, given a player's ability, his character comes into it too.

He didn't CARE if other people got ripped off, as long as he covered his ass.

I knew a local player many years ago - great player for the time, very personable. Got down on his luck and another mutual friend put him up. The guy cleaned out his house and disappeared one day.

I don't like fucking ripoffs, Sorry if that offends you but I don't. Zakk is a thief by helping 357 rip off people using his image. The fact he didn't get the share he thought he would just makes him a dumb thief, but he's shady and sleazy and he fucked his fans. So fuck him.

If I was bored of his playing but thought he was a stand-up guy, I might feel worse about him losing his job with Ozzy. As it is, I see it as karma and deserved. Nothing personal against you, man, but I think the guy is a fucking ripoff, so I have no sympathy for the way he got axed.

Gus G. deserves the exposure more than Zakk does, because as far as I know he is not a fucking ripoff. If I find later on that he IS, then my opinion might well change.

Having said that, I wish Zakk a speedy recovery from his blood clot.

[hippietim]

I don't care much for anything Zakk has played on. I don't really like any Zakk-era Ozzy or any BLS. He is certainly a skilled guitar player but I just don't like his music - and the overuse of pinch harmonics in Sabbath tunes is downright obnoxious sounding.

As for his image, he's a poseur - plain and simple - but it's not certainly not relevant to the music.