What's coming next then?

[Chubtone]

When i was starting to play in 2000-2001 ,

Sometimes it's really hard to explain to someone who wasn't there the how's and the why's of what really happened and the impact it had. A Heartfield Talon and a Fender HM strat were both good guitars in that genre even though they came out YEARS after Charvel became the guitar for people "in the know". Those guitars were like Toyota Camry's or Honda Accords. Nothing wrong with them. The Charvels were like Porsche's or Ferrari's. When you look back from 25-30 years later and say "gee, they all had 4 wheels." You really have zero perspective of what things were like in that era.

I don't mean that as an insult. Just reality. This is something I see on so many websites and I see it about bands and players too. When guys older than me start talking about Hendrix, Clapton, beck, Marino, Blackmore and the like, I shut the hell up and take that as an opportunity to learn something from people that were really there instead of using my knowledge of that era gained from VH1 specials and Wikipedia entries by some 19 year old in Greenland.

I don't mean this in a mean spirited way. Smart people learn every opportunity they get, while those who want people to think they're smart start spouting off like experts every chance they get. The experts will just normally sit back and smile when they hear the spouting.

[Rich#6]

Most expensive guitar was, yet again, another stratocaster. This time signed by the gods of rock and the art of having daily orgies up into their 60's .

bought by people who have never played a guitar. If you love fender strats so much and what to trash charvels, why are you here?
Speaking of blackie I believe it was made from parts of 4 guitars, 4 strats make one good guitar. hehe!

[Fender]

bought by people who have never played a guitar. If you love fender strats so much and what to trash charvels, why are you here?
Speaking of blackie I believe it was made from parts of 4 guitars, 4 strats make one good guitar. hehe!

Cause i love seeing you guys sweat, and cause i like Jackson guitars overall. I hear it's bad to keep a tampon in your coooch that long lol. By the way props to chubtone. I get what you mean, but in a way when we all die, people will talking about things they never lived and have to explain it accurately. If it's noted down somewhere, say here, than everyone can use it as a reference point instead of being told to look in old threads. It's really hard to guess that the thread named ''My wife left me cause i bought this'' will hold any pertaining information. By the way, i pulled that title out of my ass, but you guys know you never start a thread thinking it's going to be of any real use. I need to learn about this crap. Why? I have no god damn clue. Who gives a shit? It's useless information to know who built what when and why. It won't save us from anything. It's unlikely that it's currently earning you your dough or will make you your coffee when you come home drunk and smelling of old hookers. I pissed some of you off, but i got what i wanted: Information . It seems every thread where people ask information about guitars or buying them comes with just insults and estimates of 400$ even if they are worth more or less (Still find that shit funny though). Some of you guys have tons of knowledge, but refuse to share because new guys keep asking the same question. You guys are here for this exact reason, yet you pick and choose. If you don't want to answer the same stuff, write a FAQ. It's a huge success on every other effing forum. I've never been on a forum where people are this closed up to new guys. We noobs eventually become old forum members, and as far as we're concerned this isn't the suck or anything, so why should i have to wait 2 years before i get some respect and some answers. I know little about Charvels for now, but I've been in the BC community for about 5 years, i have been collecting and furthering my understanding of the Ibanez brand name, so i can useful at times too. I can guarantee you those guys are just as smart and funny, but they don't piss new guys off when it's totally uncalled for. Again, i hope i make myself clear when i say i am not trying to start anything here. Some of you guys are pretty cool and the jackson and charvel story is interested. I am just starting to get there. I got my first soloist yesterday and i haven't slept. I reset the floyd 3 times, switching tunings and swapped two sets of new strings just cause i wanted to see what i would like in black DM's after i had already but some GHS's on. Anyways, thanks for the info and i hope more new guys come with pictures of something they just bought or that's been stored in their attic for 20 years. I have no problem listening to their stories, looking at the pictures and hearing what you guys think about it

Until then, I am... Ron Burgundy?

[Hellbat]

Newbs to this board come in 3 forms. All 3 forms are greeted differently.

Form 1 - "I've had this guitar for 20 years love it, always loved the brand and want to know more about it or share what I do know."

This form is often greeted warmly and asked to share more.

Form 2 - "I'm a guitar expert with 3 years experience trolling harmony central. I know everything about every brand of guitar/amp/effect worth knowing about and you should bow to my uberness."

This form is generally pointed and laughed at and given grief about spelling and grammar.

Form 3 - "My buddy's Uncle's cousin's 3rd wife won this in a previous divorce. What can you tell me about it it and how much should it be insured for?" They sometime may contain a question about why they can't embed pics or mysteriously can't post in the classifieds forum.

This form gets "$400" which is also a form of pointing and laughing.

If you come in with an open mind and without a know-it-all attitude asking questions in proper English there is a ton of great people with great information to share. You just have to not hurt their eyes with broken sentences, grammar, and spelling.

[Jack Napalm]

Using paragraphs will get you points as well.

[j2379]

a charvel strathead has little in common with fender strats except for the headstock shape. especially the older ones. Ive owned original SD era ones & have a new SD1, they arent the same even when compared to each other. the fit & finish on the older charvies, are miles apart from what fender was putting out in the late 70's & 80's. plus its nice to have low action and be able to bend a note without it fretting out due to rounded fretboard radious, plus a nice thin neck profile that isnt like a baseball bat. a charvel is a shredders guitar a strat is well just a strat. as far as value, your posting and talking about guitars that were owned or built by or for rock stars, AFAIK, the 2 most exspensive guitars NOT dirrectly linked to "rockstars" are 58-60 LP standards, and the original 57/58 flying Vs, NOT pre CBS fenders.

What the hell is the BC community?

personally for me I like "Heavy Metal" guitars, if its not a "vintage" BCRich, than it better be a charvel/jackson. ive never owned a fender & have only had a couple of Gibsons, all of them were sold fairly quickly, just not my thing. charvel, jackson and BCRich, thats what all the metal bands i liked back in the 80's played, thats what i wanted when i was a kid & now i can finally afford them.

[fordsho90]

Cool another one

[RacerX]

Using paragraphs will get you points as well.

[Fender]

Using paragraphs will get you points as well.

Lol awesome.

a charvel strathead has little in common with fender strats except for the headstock shape. especially the older ones. Ive owned original SD era ones & have a new SD1, they arent the same even when compared to each other. the fit & finish on the older charvies, are miles apart from what fender was putting out in the late 70's & 80's. plus its nice to have low action and be able to bend a note without it fretting out due to rounded fretboard radious, plus a nice thin neck profile that isnt like a baseball bat. a charvel is a shredders guitar a strat is well just a strat. as far as value, your posting and talking about guitars that were owned or built by or for rock stars, AFAIK, the 2 most exspensive guitars NOT dirrectly linked to "rockstars" are 58-60 LP standards, and the original 57/58 flying Vs, NOT pre CBS fenders.

What the hell is the BC community?

personally for me I like "Heavy Metal" guitars, if its not a "vintage" BCRich, than it better be a charvel/jackson. ive never owned a fender & have only had a couple of Gibsons, all of them were sold fairly quickly, just not my thing. charvel, jackson and BCRich, thats what all the metal bands i liked back in the 80's played, thats what i wanted when i was a kid & now i can finally afford them.

I meant B.C. Rich guitars. I was on the older B.C. Rich forums, but they were opened and shut a few times, so i hung out more often at the Moser Custom Shop forum since a lot of the members were on both forums and they discussed early 80's Rich's at MCS. I am actually not a die hard Fender fan (it's hard to figure out with the message board nickname and what not), but i like that them for what they were and continue to be.

I like to think a lot of what can be said of modern guitars is that they are mostly based on a regular Gibson les paul design (angled neck, hard-tail and dual humbuckers) or Fender stratocaster (bolt on neck, front loaded electronics and single coils) These features are not unique to these guitars. However, it's obvious my Jackson Dinky DK2 has a lot more in common with a Fender stratocaster and my older stop bridge BC rich warlock feels a lot like a Gibson in disguise.

What i dig about my Fender is it provides a different feel and tone in my collection. I use it to get back to my roots. Whenever i pick-up my Jackson's i am always prone to playing hair metal. When i pick-up my Strat, which I've played tons of metal with live, i always like to flick the switch onto the neck position and listen to that awesome bell like single coil tone through my crunch channel with a light amount of gain. It takes me back to when i was barely a teen listening to my Eric Clapton cd's and just staring at the clouds. It might not mean anything to you guys, but ,from i can understand, a lot of musicians started with a Stratocaster copy or a Gibson, so when i finally got my first real Fender Stratocaster i was ecstatic. Even now I keep it up on my wall, despite the fact that it gets way less play time than my Ibanez and Jacksons.

Finally, to come to some sort of conclusion here, i really have come to enjoy the Jackson and Charvel brands as of lately and I'd like to admit that i can't wait to see what comes out next. I recently came very close to buying a nice blue SD-1. Yes it played beautifully , nice tone, comfortable neck that has little in common with a Fender ''C'' design, but the price wasn't right for it, so i waited. I have picked up a bit more info through all this, and It'll probably come to some use if ever i stumble around some early Charvels and want to buy one. However, I'd still run it by you guys first.

Note: See Mr. Jack Napalm, i even indented my paragraphs to save you the hassle of reading without the security and comfort of some empty space to denote the end of a specific idea or train of thought.

P.S. I went to try this Charvel near my place. The guy wants a lot of money, but it's particularly tasty and comes with a heap of documents. I know it's not a regular production line, it didn't feel like one anyways. Any ideas how much it's worth? I'd offer him 400$ Racerx, but he probably won't find it funny. He wants 2500$ canadian and a few rabbit pelts, which is about still 2500$ usd.

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[dg]

I think that's one of the Grover Jackson Legacy series guitars. It looks like it's one of the relic'd ones. Very nice, but going by a few I've seen on ebay, you may be able to do just a little better price-wise. They were insanely expensive when they first came out, but no one bought them until they cut the price by about 2/3.

[Cygnus X1]

All that for this?

I want them to redo the pointy head model series.
And old Charvels have necks that are too fat.

[MakeAJazzNoiseHere]

What's next? Obviously, Charvel is going to go after the Daisy Rock target market. What's so cool about Daisy Rock guitars, you ask?

1. Pink guitars!
2. Glitter!
3. Butterflies and hearts! That's TWO reasons in one!
4. OMG Ponies!!
5. 26 models under $200!
6. Bonus reason: They're SUPER CUTE OMG!

Nah, I'm sure they'll do something cool. I'm not that into the idea of model reissues but hey, if a bunch of guys are and it makes Charvel some money, I don't care. I really prefer the Strat-heads, pointies should say Jackson on them IMO.

[tcwil8]

What's next? Obviously, Charvel is going to go after the Daisy Rock target market. What's so cool about Daisy Rock guitars, you ask?

1. Pink guitars!
2. Glitter!
3. Butterflies and hearts! That's TWO reasons in one!
4. OMG Ponies!!
5. 26 models under $200!
6. Bonus reason: They're SUPER CUTE OMG!

Nah, I'm sure they'll do something cool. I'm not that into the idea of model reissues but hey, if a bunch of guys are and it makes Charvel some money, I don't care. I really prefer the Strat-heads, pointies should say Jackson on them IMO.

:ROTF: Don't forget rainbows and kitty cats! I have two daughters under the age of 9 and they would go ape shit over this stuff.

[Grandturk]

Bullshit. You'd go apeshit for that. Don't try to pretend.

[Fender]

''That's where you look to know it's good...right there''