So will we see the "next" production Charvels at Summer NAMM?

[SATCH1967]

So what is the infor on the next move, Hopefully they will do a flame-top run, or maybe a Jake E. Lee signature guitar. hmmmm.. will have to wait an see.

[Jack Napalm]

They won't be doing a Jake Signature. ESP just did a small run.

[sully]

So what is the infor on the next move, Hopefully they will do a flame-top run, or maybe a Jake E. Lee signature guitar. hmmmm.. will have to wait an see.

Jake's happy with ESP; we tried.

Sully

[ekalb09]

Stars/pointy headstocks come on... *crosses fingers*
Edit: Not both of those things together though.. and probably not any of those anyways. Wishful thinking.

[Bionic]

Jake's happy with ESP; we tried.

Sully

I saw that run...they are Charvel's...

[John.E.Fawkes]

unless the next step involves GERMAN floyd rose units, i dont care..
you know quality has been somewhat compromised when the floyd is korean..
AINT NO THING BUT A CHICKEN WING.

[ekalb09]

unless the next step involves GERMAN floyd rose units, i dont care..
you know quality has been somewhat compromised when the floyd is korean..
AINT NO THING BUT A CHICKEN WING.

I think you guys are hyping the whole 'korean floyd' thing quite a bit. I think the korean floyd holds it's own, but that's just me I guess. :think:

[Grim]

Aren't they imports to you already?

Now that you mention it, I suppose they are.

Well, If we get Asian imports, I will be pissed.

[LexLuthier]

unless the next step involves GERMAN floyd rose units, i dont care..
you know quality has been somewhat compromised when the floyd is korean..
AINT NO THING BUT A CHICKEN WING.

Newer MIG Floyds aren't as well made as the ones made in the 80's IMO. Compare the saddle castings and the machine work on the base plates of new Floyds vs. an 80's Floyd, no comparison. John Suhr quit using OFR's on his guitars for this reason. The machine work on the Charvel mystery Floyds is pretty decent, the unknown factor is the metallurgy and hardness of the parts.

[Grim]

I find them similar. The people who claim to feel a difference are either crazy-anal or lying.

[LexLuthier]

I find them similar. The people who claim to feel a difference are either crazy-anal or lying.

Agreed. I guess we will have to see how they hold up over the long run as far as durability is concerned.

[John.E.Fawkes]

Newer MIG Floyds aren't as well made as the ones made in the 80's IMO. Compare the saddle castings and the machine work on the base plates of new Floyds vs. an 80's Floyd, no comparison. John Suhr quit using OFR's on his guitars for this reason. The machine work on the Charvel mystery Floyds is pretty decent, the unknown factor is the metallurgy and hardness of the parts.

i totaly agree to be honest, the 80's floyds are the holy grail floyd for me, i do like the newer ones over the koreans though, i will admit, although the korean floyds arnt "bad" as such, i can certainly notice subtle differences from the newer german made floyds, im not "crazy anal" i justpick up on things.
but my main point was that, its not totally down to the korean floyd that puts me off, its that by opting for the korean, its a sure sign that there has been a few corners cut, for example some of the guys here noticed inconsistent fret work on some of their promods.
im not saing theyre bad...just myself personally, i would like to see higher standards, even if it does mean a little bit of a price uppage, its worth it. (FOR ME)

[Grandturk]

its a sure sign that there has been a few corners cut,

Just like:

- limited configurations
- limited color choices

That's what a production line is all about - cut as many corners as possible to reduce cost without compromising the quality of the product. Henry Ford knew it, Leo Fender knew, and anybody that wants to stay in business should fucking know it as well.

[ralph]

Just like:

- limited configurations
- limited color choices

That's what a production line is all about - cut as many corners as possible to reduce cost without compromising the quality of the product. Henry Ford knew it, Leo Fender knew, and anybody that wants to stay in business should fucking know it as well.

+1

unless I am mistaken, prior to Fenders buyout of J/C, the company was in trouble financially, there were also many more production models available, which is fine provided the market is there. More options means a more complex production line, more chances for mistakes, higher procurement costs etc. etc.

As long as they are still making quality instruments, I will look at J/C guitars before other manufacturers

I think they are doing a good job and cant wait to see what they offer next

[Rich#6]

there were also many more production models available, which is fine provided the market is there.

Like what? Charvel was dead except throught the custom shop at the time of the but out(unless they started the 2002 charvels before fender bought them in 2002). Jackson USA only had a few selects.:think: I don't think there were more import models either.