MZ Liquidates Grover Legacies

[MakeAJazzNoiseHere]

I think the Korean Floyd on the Pro Mods is a really good tremolo, if not THE BEST licensed tremolo barring the Schaller.

[MarkThomas]

blah blah blah, you lost me after you said the Pro Mods were not a good value. Yeah right....

Is there a dope smoking smiley?

LOL. I own 3 USA Pro-Mods and the Floyds are great, maybe not up to German standards, but don't have one to compare. I love my Pro Mods, awesome guitars and a real value if you ask me!

[MakeAJazzNoiseHere]

Yeah, I had one of the flat black ones, too. I ended up parting it out and used the neck for my gloss black Style 1 body. Ultimately I looked at it and felt like "Why isn't this shiny?"

It takes a certain amount of balls to try and sell a flat black guitar with two pickups and a Floyd for well over $2G's. Is it cool because it's flat black, and so it's worth a lot? Or is is cheesy because it's not even a gloss finish? After all, it's a "limited edition" of however many they can possibly sell, so you can bet all the cool kids will have one... Just as long as the cool kids think they are cool. :think:

As of right now that price makes the Natural look like a bargain, if you can get it painted any color you want ("Except flat black" - to misquote Henry Ford) for $400, which... You can. :dunno:

[GuerillaPete]

And those "black series" guitars are neat, for $1700. Oh my bad, $2200? Good luck with that.

Wow! Didn't realize they went up in price that much. That's crazy! Even @ $1700, I think it would be too high. It's just a flat black finish. Charvel made a flat black San Dimas production model. You can get for under $1k, used. I was lucky enough to pick up (from the first TMZ series) used on ebay for about the same as the production version.

[tonemonster]

old style floyd posts are bad news, period. I know some people disagree, and thats fine, more for them. there is a reason they switched to using threaded inserts.

[jmsaxon69]

blah blah blah, you lost me after you said the Pro Mods were not a good value. Yeah right....

Is there a dope smoking smiley?

[beardy]

Yep, FMIC has done it all, bought both Charvel and Jackson and ratcheted up the prices for everything. The maybe-cool looking San Dimas Style 1s and 2s are hardly what I'd call money for value, considering that the Floyds on them are Korean, not Schaller German. And that's at $999 in the USA, with no case. Jackson CS prices are now astronomical, don't see how they can compete with the likes of Carvin, really. Not saying that all's bad, they've retained a few jems such as the DK2 Sustainer and PC1, but everything else seems rather soulless, even the good ol' soloist. Maybe it's just me being in love with my lovely 1990 Jackson Professional PC Archtop and the 1990 Jackson Professional Soloist in Ferrari Red, but I'm missing the pizzaz of the daring colours and even more daring hardware such as Floyds and Kahlers, and not some turdy v-trems. On a little note, I can't necessarily praise JT580LP (replaced that with an OFR Pro on my Sustainer), but the JT590 (aka the Schaller Floyd) kicks serious, even OFR, ass. I do, nevertheless, miss Jackson Professional from the 90s - best guitars since the San Dimas forefathers and the Charvel Model cousins, and this time at reasonable prices, but with a Jackson logo.
I concur with all those bashing the old fashioned wood screws, any luthier will tell you that the hex anchors rock. Period.
Rant over, I'm off to bed!

[J_A / 540s]

Ive never had that problem unless the hole was drilled to deep. I admit the inserts are a lot easier to work with but I actually prefer the screws right into the body.. but im sometimes nostalgic for no practical reason

[Axewielder]

They have a tendency to lean forward over time.

Yeah I had a guitar that was stricken with that. It blows. They really are going to fatigue the body's wood if you adjust them a lot. Also, I'll take hex key adjustments over those slots any day.

[toejam]

They have a tendency to lean forward over time. I also prefer top-mounted locking nuts rather than through the back of the neck, but I could deal with that.

[J_A / 540s]

If they pulled out the wood screw Floyd posts and put in the newer inserts for them, I'd probably pull the trigger on one, too. I do like the splatter.

Just curious... what do ya have against the old style screws?

[tcwil8]

I don't think Carr got the memo on this.

http://cgi.ebay.com/JACKSON-LEGACY-B...item1c193e7260

But that's a Smurf Murder limited edition. Gotta be worth more.

[atomic charvel guy]

in regards to returning the guitars, that is all dependant on what it says
on the invoice to TMZ in the small print. If they are returnable, i;m sure there is a restocking fee to pay.

[MadPeter]

I don't think Carr got the memo on this.

http://cgi.ebay.com/JACKSON-LEGACY-B...item1c193e7260

This one got blue splashed paint instead of red : that's a collector that deserves an outrageous price !

[jacksonluvr]

Those blood splatters are SO boring.. They do nothing for me at any price..