Charvel Bullseye

[Shawn]

I have been told by a trusted source that the Bullseye mess is really that bad. A large percentage were painted on only one side, so they were returned. Now they find out that the trem holes are a bit off, so the guitar wont intonate correctly.

I just want my bullseye! Oh well, I have found a Jem bug to keep me busy in between.


Shawn

[Joe_Steeler]

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My God Shawn, this is plain stupid.
I've heard they problems with the bodies but did not know it was THIS bad.

Some dude here got his already, so I guess they are going through them and fishing out the good ones.
We will have to go through ours with a fine tooth comb to make sure they are OK.

Patiently waiting.... Joe

[surfreak]

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It seems unbelievable that they could screw up with such a tried and true body shape, for which all the routing templates should have been refined over the past 50 years, down to the smallest hole.

[Tekky]

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50 years? This is news to me. I thought Charvel had just celebrated their 25th Anniversary last year with a commemorative guitar.

[babagi1]

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My Charvel rep took me to the Van Halen show in Anaheim and we discussed the holdup with the Bullseyes that were originally promised back in May. He claims that Charvel/Fender screwed up the paint job (he didn't give me specifics) He didn't mention anything about the trem holes being off and having intonation problems. This is Fender's first attempt at this production w/these guitars, so there is bound to be problems of this nature occur. They'll get all the bugs worked out and will ship soon. I was told by my rep that only 2 of the Bullseyes made it out - a guy in Vegas received them. I saw them in teh paint booth back in May and they looked great. By the way EVH had a rough time playing his gtr when I saw the concert. But it was still cool to see a living legend.

[ponsarelli]

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Could you elaborate on the phrase "EVH had a rough time playing his guitar"? Was he having technical trouble, or did it look like he was rusty?

thanks

[RR05xx]

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This is Fender's first attempt at this production w/these guitars, so there is bound to be problems of this nature occur. They'll get all the bugs worked out and will ship soon.

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Whoa, time out. All information that I have seen claims that the new Charvels are being made by the Jackson Custom Shop people just like it used to be (maybe in a new location but its is supposed to be separate from the Fender operation). THese are the same guys who pulled off a pointy black Bullseye reissue a few years back with flying colors.

What the heck does Fender's abilities and production problems have to do with the Jackson Custom Shop?

Kindly explain.

[RP]

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I just think Jackson/Charvel is bad about estimating time and everything takes longer than they originally estimate.

Case in point, the JCF Big Red has taken several months longer than the original quote. I think you just have to take every delivery estimate with a grain of salt.

[Tekky]

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This is Fender's first attempt at this production w/these guitars, so there is bound to be problems of this nature occur. They'll get all the bugs worked out and will ship soon.

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Whoa, time out. All information that I have seen claims that the new Charvels are being made by the Jackson Custom Shop people just like it used to be (maybe in a new location but its is supposed to be separate from the Fender operation). THese are the same guys who pulled off a pointy black Bullseye reissue a few years back with flying colors.

What the heck does Fender's abilities and production problems have to do with the Jackson Custom Shop?

Kindly explain.

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There are folks who don't believe that Charvel/Jackson and Fender coexist, but are separate. Tour the shop in Corona (like I did at Winter NAMM), and you'll see. They're separate. Anyone who believes otherwise is misinformed.

[babagi1]

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Ed has to be one of my favorite players, so that said: no joke, he was incoherent as they come - you could barley understand what he mumbled when he spoke into the mike. He addmited to the standing almost slilent crowd that his solo piece wasn't going anywhere - and it didn't. Maybe since I play guitar I judge a bit harder than I should. But this past Monday night, Ed was not on his game at all. He missed alot of signature licks. You can believe what you want but, but Charvel is Fender. I'm not trying to start a war or anything like that. But having been to the Corona facilty many times, you realize all the guitars that are built by Fender USA are made under the same roof. Charvel is a one division that builds their gtrs. right along side the other Fender gear. So technically and on paper your correct - but in reality I'm not convinced of the separation of Fender and Charvel. And does it really matter ? If I like a gtr. I could really care less who made it what factory produced it.

[Joe_Steeler]

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You know what?... when there are praises and discussions beneficial to FMIC's production, some very helpful (no sarcasm here) FMIC employees jump in with info and anecdotes.
On this issue it is scary how silent it is. All we are getting is hearsay from dealers (very good dealers BTW) and reps.

Does it take much for someone with first hand knowledge, preferably an employee that may raom around here, to jump in tell us what the heck is going on and get the speculations over with?

I am not asking for the special paint formulation or the Coronel chicken recipe. Some of us have paid some serious dough for this guitars and a little explanation could go a long way.
Look at it this way, FMIC tells us honestly what is going on and dispell any rumors of incompetency or how Fender might not be able to resurrect Charvel to its old glory.

Nip it in the butt, now.

[surfreak]

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50 years? This is news to me. I thought Charvel had just celebrated their 25th Anniversary last year with a commemorative guitar.

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Yes but Charvel did not design the Strat body shape and routing patterns.

[Tekky]

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Uhh, you're talking Charvel, which is in some ways different from the Strat routing patterns. You're comparing oranges to tangerines here.

Overall, we're talking about a mistake. One that they're correcting. So somebody screwed up. Guess what... They're probably standing on the unemployment line with half an ass right now.

[Newc]

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I doubt they'd get fired over a simple paint screw-up - if that was the case, then we'd hafta wait another year for the JCF02s because of the clearcoat issue [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Charvel is Jackson/Charvel, FMIC is Sugar Daddy holding the deed to the brand. FMIC is NOT Charvel. You've been misinformed.
HOWEVER, the production model Charvels ARE being made on Fender machines in the Fender side of the building by Jackson employees according to John Walker at NAMM.
If I play Eruption on Eddie's guitar, that doesn't make me Eddie Van Halen, nor does it make Eruption my song.

And weh fukkin weh you paid a lot of money for a guitar that ain't here yet - you and everyone in the JCF02 bunch are in the same boat, so sit down, shut up, and wait your turn [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/poke.gif[/img]

As for the FMIC and Jackson people that post here, you might want to get a map of the USA and find Scottsdale Arizona and Corona California, then figure out how far away from Corona McD and Morgan are, being that they're in Arizona.

Newc

[Chuckracer]

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Jeez Louise, I could build you a friggen rear loaded single pickup Strat/Charvel with a bullesye paint job by now!

AND if I'm standing at a huge CNC machine with many of the pramaters already in it, working this machine for a company that's been building guitars like this one for 50 years, tell me again how different the bridge placement is on a Charvel body from a Fender body...?

Growing pains?? Gimme a break...