Van Halen Charvels

[dinkyjacksonman]

Re: Van Halen Charvels

Some people get it, some people don't.
People who don't get it take too serious about it.
If there are people who would spend that much money on these, let them pay whatever they want and let them be happy.

Not a big deal.

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[Joe_Steeler]

Re: Van Halen Charvels

To each its own.

For a one one humbucker, EVH hand stripped guitar I'll pay no more than $4K.
I'll bet some people, including my wife, will think and tell me I am fool for doing so. I don't care, I'll have it play the heck out of it and die a happy "fool".

This "fool" happens to think $15K for a one pickup, basic strat setup is beyond the realm of everyday foolness. Just like Clapton's, Hendrix's or any other guitar "God".
There are men that pee and poop just like you and me.

That is it. Just an opinion, not meant to insult or degrade. Just an opinion in a free country.

[Riffmeister]

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Yea well I don't have and can't afford to even have a place for my family to live, due to NO fault of my own , and people can just throw away that kind of cash on a guitar.......makes me sick!!!

[Cleveland Metal]

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I'm with Rick. And my $215 (almost brand new condition) Charvel 475 plays just as nice IMO. That's all "I" need...

Hehe, one of my houses only cost 18 grand! Hahaha...

[bluebullet]

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its all relative if you make shitloads of money then 15000 grand is not alot to you if your on hard times than its a fortune. i dont drive 100,000 dollar porsche but they seem to sell quite a few of them. doesnt mean they are stupid just means they have more to spend.

[jazzman]

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How much are these worth then. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MEWA:IT

[dinkyjacksonman]

Re: Van Halen Charvels

Not this again.

Funny but this is getting old already.
It was funny at the first time though.
It's like an old comedian keeps repeating the same old jokes.

[Birdzeyeee]

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If they can't manage the cost financially, they are willing to go in debt solely for their ego / past adolescence..... [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] Nothing wrong with that if you can balance the extra burden of debt while staring at yourself in the mirror pantomimeing EVH while deluding yourself into thinking you had a shot back in the day..... [img]/images/graemlins/bs.gif[/img] To each is own. Far hyped / overated in 2004. These EVH strats should have come out back in 1983, then it would have mattered. They're a little late to the party folks. The only limited value this has is nostalgia for an era long past. Kind of hard to glorify EVH at 50 (well PAST his prime - and this has more to do with POOR decisions than chronological age) with him and his kid Wolfie (the offspring, the "mini-me" protege pushed into it by dad) playing romper room on stages trying for a comeback. EVH thinks band members, like wives, are replacable. His philosophy and ego sucks. Sad. [img]/images/graemlins/eyes.gif[/img]

[hippietim]

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The only limited value this has is nostalgia for an era long past.

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True. Just like pretty much every single Charvel being made now at all. They kick ass!!!

[eddyrox]

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Well hippietim,
I did not mean to mock or insult any prospective owner, it is just my opinion.
At the risk of starting a flame war I will try my best to explain why I think the way I do.

It is a one humbucker Strat!!! with a uncommon paint job, that is it.
$7K+ guitar that has no exotic wood, say Brazilian RW, gold leaf emblem, real gold hardware, titanium saddles or any other thing that screams and justifies dollars.

At the end of the day it is no different than a new retro Charvel with a funky paint job. A brand new retro Charvel could be had for just over $1800.

I don't know about other people, but I think I can device a few other ways to part with such amount of cash.
EVH as a player is a part of rock history, EVH as a person well.... you've heard. Could be a bit unpleasant at times.

So, a one humbucker superstrat with a funky paint job in your hands. How much is it worth? to you? to me?
Would you take it out to a gig and leave it on a stand while you go to the restroom? someone throw a bottle at you and hit it?
Would you take it to practice and have the singer knock it out of the stand (like it happened to me)?

Would you get your money out of it? or is it a piece like a hard rock cafe piece of memorabilia?

Would I like to have one, hell yes. For that amount of cash, hell no.

Now you know what might really screw up the whole thing? how about if people justify it by think that EVH himself had that guitar in hand and worked on it. Well, his fingerprint must be worth something.
How about if you find out, years later, that he never touched it and he had some tech help him with the guitars while he was drunk somewhere.
Happened to many people buying Ted Williams memorabilia.

I don't mean disrespect or sarcasm, I've just seen to much in my lifetime and have a family that I can help better by not filling EVH pockets.

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Jose, FWIW, I completely agree!

Not to diminish Matt's opinion or anyone else's for that matter.

I also believe that $15-25K for a guitar that's basically a bolt-on, single Hum, whether touched by "G*D" or not, is ridiculous.

For all of the reasons you've listed above, and I'll emphasize that to maintain the guitar in an "investment" grade, you'll have to either keep it in a case, or better yet put it in a vault, never to see the light of day. SH*T, that's a museum piece, NOT a guitar. And for the record, that F*CKIN' chain called Guitar Center laid out the approximately $1M for Blackie. Same fate awaits. It'll be enshrined down here in the Hollywood store's vintage window for the world to witness (or someone to try and steal).

Again, just my opinion, but guitar's are meant to be played, not displayed. Unless of course, you've got the financial capacity and wherewithal to spend $15-25k on something that you'll never touch or see.

[eddyrox]

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To each is own. Far hyped / overated in 2004. These EVH strats should have come out back in 1983, then it would have mattered.

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couldn't have said it any better! [img]/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]

[Hossman]

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Hmmm.. Charvel mfg. did make a limited number (black and yellow) in relation with Music Emporium in 1979 to 1982 and some afterwards as well, way before Kramer had EVH on board in 82. In the period of the VHII record release but the plan fell through for Charvel mfg. and EVH guitars because they did not get the signed consent and permission from EVH. Consequently, it is believed EVH had a cease and desist order served on Charvel mfg..

[eddyrox]

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Hmmm.. Charvel mfg. did make a limited number (black and yellow) in relation with Music Emporium in 1979 to 1982 and some afterwards as well, way before Kramer had EVH on board in 82. In the period of the VHII record release but the plan fell through for Charvel mfg. and EVH guitars because they did not get the signed consent and permission from EVH. Consequently, it is believed EVH had a cease and desist order served on Charvel mfg..

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hossman, of course you're right. I was thinking more along the lines of a B/Y or B/W limited edition or a "production model", like Charvel's offering now. BTW, what're your thoughts on the new EVH Charvels (not the art series) and when are you going to buy a new Anderson? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[surfreak]

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I may be going against the flow here, but I do think that these EVH are one of the greatest bargain in rock memorabilia today.

We are talking about a guitar with original artwork (err...) by a legitimate rock god, signed and played by him live in front of thousands of fans, which sells for an initial price of $ 5,150.
If they sell consistently for $ 15,000, it means that they are underpriced, in the eyes of the public.

Before the EVH came out, the closest that us mere mortals could get to an axe connected in some way to a legitimate rock god of the caliber of EVH was the Gibson Jimmy Page replica, signed by JP, maybe strummed by him for 30 seconds, and which sells for $ 25K retail.

In this context, it makes no sense to state that the objective value of the EVH is not worth the final price of 15K, or that it's just wood and wire, or that a $ 215 (almost brand new) guitar sounds just as good.

The EVH is a piece of rock memorabilia.
Sorry for the cynicism, but Eddie is not in great shape, and he has just recovered from a very serious illness. Should something happen to him, these guitars will go through the roof.

And I do believe they are also great instruments. Better than any $ 215 (almost brand new) guitars.
Eddie played them live. He may not care anymore about these things, or he may not have anything to prove anymore, but by playing these reissues EVH did put his reputation at stake, even if for just one song, in front of thousands of people.

[hippietim]

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Word.