Is EVH changing the neck specs?

[jgcable]

Re: Is EVH changing the neck specs?

My vote goes for top mount too. I have seen too many through hole necks with cracks in them and obviously it is a structural issue because the cracks are always exactly in the same place. I have also never had a problem with a top mount nut wiggling.

[noodlesatf]

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Maybe Charvel will move the carousel truss rod adjustment like the old Music Mans had on the EVH model. I had one of these on my Parker NiteFly, and it made it an absolute snap to make truss rod adjustments. This is the only acceptable way to put truss rod adjustment at the neck base IMHO.

[zeegler]

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Top mount fer sure. I've never had a problem with wiggling nuts, except when I jump up and down!

[Metalcop]

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Mike and I argue about this all of the time, lol! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] Bottom line, half of my guitars have the top mount, the other half, through the neck. Absolutely no difference in tuning, whatsoever. None. You can abuse the bar Vai style, and they both stay in tune the same. It may be true that companies save money with the top mounted locking nuts, but at the end of the day, it keeps tilt back headstocks from breaking. Strats aren't an issue because they have so much extra wood in the nut area. I tend to think that some guys prefer the through the neck style simply because it is the style they are used to, and want to keep things old school. No better, definitely no worse, just different. BTW, I just drilled a nut, through the neck, for the old school feel, and it was a tremendous PITA, and I very nearly ruined a $300 strathead neck for my trouble. Never again! Top mount is the only way to go.

[MHGOLDTOP]

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Mike and I argue about this all of the time, lol! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] I tend to think that some guys prefer the through the neck style simply because it is the style they are used to, and want to keep things old school.

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We will keep this argument going wont we! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

gotta have something to bitch about with all our cool guitars...

I just got a Dime guitar with a top mount, and it is staying in tune nicely. But I wish it was through the neck! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[roodyrocker]

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Get a Kahler then you don't hav to worry abut it, they're top mounted only [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Rudy

[lerxstcat]

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Unfortunately, and I am a Kahler fan, their locking clamp is the weakness of their whole system. When they start going out of tune, if you don't just know the underside of the clamp
is now grooved and slipping, you'll go nuts trying to figure out why the guitar that did stay in tune now doesn't.

[noodlesatf]

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My favorite bitch with the Kahler string clamps is how they have no string guide. With the sharp angle the plain strings take from the lock to the tuners, you never get a solid lock on them. I found that I have tune down, then pull the strings to the left (and into tune), forcing them to come straight through the lock. However, if I run out of fine tuning room, it is a royal pain in the butt to go through all of this again.

All I use are Kahlers, but I hate the string locks I've been moving everything to the flip lever style, but they are almost more trouble than they are worth.

[charvelguy]

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I haven't had any stability issues with a topmount and using the bar, at least none that I've noticed. Even if you have some minute fractional slop in there from the mount, when the nut in under tension..it isn't gonna move. How often do you take your system all the way slack with your fretting hand off the neck? If I did this alot, I'd still rather have a topmount on an Wizard thin profile than thru the neck.

Hey, if you guys do not want your topmounts....I'll buy your 'junk' from ya for a reasonable price.

[RR05xx]

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I like Kalhers alot and I must admit that the best set up is with the top mount Floyd locking nut. The behind the nut crap, while fine for my purposes, is really not optimal.

[roodyrocker]

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I have not run into any stability problems with either a Kahler, nor top mount Floyd locking nut. All I know is I don't ever see cracks around the top mount locking nuts. However there are plenty of through the neck Floyds with cracks around them.
If this was a race car, the through the neck Floyd would not be on it [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Rudy

[Deneb]

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You know, I've been used to taking the neck off of some Strats to adjust the neck, but my 95 USA Standard Strat adjusts at the head (I found out after I took the neck off ... [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

To think, you think you know all you need to know.

[Chuckracer]

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"If this was a race car, the through the neck Floyd would not be on it."

Baloney. Race cars are all about performance not about longetivity or saving parts. The thru neck bolts are more secure and more stable, and if a guitar was a race car, it would certainly have the thru neck bolts.

I understand the very vocal majority likes the tiny wood screws holding the nut better, and that's great for you. It's not like I have much of a choice.

[roodyrocker]

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Chuck, what I meant was that a race car needs reliable parts to finish the race. Can't win with a broken race car [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] Like wise with a Floyd nut, if its got a high incidence of cracking the neck then I see no reason to keep using it and a cracked neck doesn't seem more stable to me anyway. I'm no guitar tech expert but I do notice lots of cracked through the neck Floyd equipped guitars.
Having said that, I certainly can't argue about it being a personal preference for many people. No arguement from me there.
I have guitars with both styles. I just don't buy the arguement that the top mount ones are less stable. If my guitar stays in tune with the top mount nut and nothing cracks, then its doing its job just fine. Or am I missing something about both styles here.

Rudy

[lerxstcat]

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Chuck, our preferences aren't made to annoy or oppose you. I really don't find a problem with the topmount nuts, but even if there were, I would rather tighten the wood screws periodically than change necks repeatedly. AS someone else mentioned, you're into Stratheads, where there's much more meat on the neck and it can support the structural weakening. You can't do that with a super thin and/or tilted back headstock without cracking being highly likely.If it works and stays in tune - and it does - what's the problem?