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  • #46
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    I look up to Jimmy, he gives me good amp advice...while Pete, I think, has had enough of me. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

    Mike

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    I'm starting to empathize with Pete, Mike. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
    Tarbaby Fraser.

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    • #47
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      I look up to Jimmy, he gives me good amp advice...while Pete, I think, has had enough of me. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

      Mike

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      I'm starting to empathize with Pete, Mike. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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      Well, at least you are still answering my PMs. Pete has foresaken me!!!! [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

      Mike
      Sleep. The sound doesn't collapse to riffs of early eyes either.

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      • #48
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        How after all this could EVH sell these hand striped guitars supposedly to the fans (rich collectors) for what ever the total was, which was a shit load of money. Then after going though cancer himself and not donate the money publicly to some kind of charity or research and restore some faith in the fans (knowing dam well 99% of VH fan base didn't have a chance in hell owning one of these guitars). This would have made me a huge supporter of him and maybe then I could use the term "hero".

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        • #49
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          I want to clarify here that all uses of the words "hero", "god", "master" what-have-you, were used in relation to his abilities and impact on the world of guitar.

          Mike
          Sleep. The sound doesn't collapse to riffs of early eyes either.

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          • #50
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            Save this thread...we'll be talking this same shit over Zakk Wylde in a few more years [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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            • #51
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              My opinion of this is, and excuse my french, who the fuck cares if he's an alcoholic or drunk or a gay fuckin' monkey beater? Boys, it's Eddie Van Halen. I know most of the Jackson guys around here beat off to pictures of the very tiny and effeminate Randy Rhoads, who climbed up a big ladder to board a plane piloted by a coked up aviator - it is a Jackson forum - and I can resect those tendancies, but what the hell with the EVH trashing at every opportunity?

              I don't see people taking pot shots at Chuckracer for his kidney disease or at me for my cancer yet, Ed is trashed for his illness everytime his name comes up. Oh, and please spare me the "he has control over whether he drinks or not" BS - he does not. If he really is on a forty year bender, he has no control...he belongs to the disease, not vice versa.

              Put a guitar in his hand and he will smoke everyone here and everyone you know - he is the King. This is a guitar board not a fuckin support group. If he wishes to drink his life away I say, giver! I could care less if Wolfie has a dad to raise him - I have my own problems to worry about. His music is what matters to me not his personal life. So why you guys take pot shots at someone like Eddie Van Halen, I'm gonna to take some whiskey to the party tonight and look for somebody to sqeeze. [img]/images/graemlins/band.gif[/img]

              ...and yes, I am on the rag today. [img]/images/graemlins/rant.gif[/img]

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              My guess is its probably because he's a pathetic motherfucker who is killing himself, self-destructing in public view and wasting a great talent. I think if he just went into isolation and drank himself slowly to death people wouldn't really give a fuck. He's just doing it in the publics eye, while touring, while at NAMM, while putting stupid stripes on Charvel guitars, and while giving a radio interview [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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              • #52
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                Shawn, none of this has any imapct on his impact. He's Eddie Van Halen whether he's drunk or sober.

                If Randy had lived long enough to have the videos of him blowing Ozzy, while he fingered Bob, made public would it change people perceptions of the music he created? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] It makes no sense to me is all that I am trying to imply.

                A mans private life is his to live, whether we want to take notice of it or not. If Ed's desire is to drink himself to death it is his decision. We are just rubber necking the train wreck.

                I'd like to see proof that he is a motherfucker. I know he was prior to the divorce but who is he sqeezing now? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
                Tarbaby Fraser.

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                • #53
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                  Save this thread...we'll be talking this same shit over Zakk Wylde in a few more years [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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                  Really? Does Zakk really mean that much to folks? I'm not trying to put him down or anything but I've never thought of Zakk as being anywhere near Eddie's league in terms of guitar playing and song writing.
                  I want REAL change. I want dead bodies littering the capitol.

                  - Newc

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                  • #54
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                    lol...I'm sure he'd have no problem getting any MILF he wanted to

                    I hear exactly what you are saying. I think most people hate to see this happen to Eddie, especially since it affects his performances and more than likely his creative ability.

                    Eddie and Randy were my 2 guys when I first started on guitar, I preferred Randy for his classical side over Eddies bluesy stuff. I thought VH with Hargar wasn't the same although there are some great guitar and songs from that team. DLR should get as much credit for original VH as Eddie and Alex get.

                    Yngwie gets the same stuff because he's a dick and that he got fat etc, I don't care about that, just his playing. What is different between him and Ed is Eddie has the ability to change whereas Yngwie will always be a dick [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Yngwie can lose weight but being a dick isn't a treatable disease, alcoholism is. Yngwie with his fat crammed in leather still plays the same or better as when he first came out. I'm not sure Eddie still has it in his current state and that is why is so sad to see...
                    shawnlutz.com

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                    • #55
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                      Save this thread...we'll be talking this same shit over Zakk Wylde in a few more years [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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                      Really? Does Zakk really mean that much to folks? I'm not trying to put him down or anything but I've never thought of Zakk as being anywhere near Eddie's league in terms of guitar playing and song writing.

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                      +1 [img]/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]

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                      • #56
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                        Shawn, none of this has any imapct on his impact. He's Eddie Van Halen whether he's drunk or sobeer.

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                        That's probably the main reason why people are upset by it, and throw stones to make themselves feel better. It's human nature, messed up beings that we are, to tear down our hero's so we can sleep at night.

                        That's all you're seeing here.

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                        • #57
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                          I don't agree.

                          I think we are discussing how tragic it is to watch a legend destroy himself. Some of us still want to see Eddie just wailing on Frankenstein for the rest of his life and yet others are willing to just accept the way he is now.
                          Occupy JCF

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                          • #58
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                            My opinion of this is, and excuse my french, who the fuck cares if he's an alcoholic or drunk or a gay fuckin' monkey beater? Boys, it's Eddie Van Halen. I know most of the Jackson guys around here beat off to pictures of the very tiny and effeminate Randy Rhoads, who climbed up a big ladder to board a plane piloted by a coked up aviator - it is a Jackson forum - and I can resect those tendancies, but what the hell with the EVH trashing at every opportunity?

                            I don't see people taking pot shots at Chuckracer for his kidney disease or at me for my cancer yet, Ed is trashed for his illness everytime his name comes up. Oh, and please spare me the "he has control over whether he drinks or not" BS - he does not. If he really is on a forty year bender, he has no control...he belongs to the disease, not vice versa.

                            Put a guitar in his hand and he will smoke everyone here and everyone you know - he is the King. This is a guitar board not a fuckin support group. If he wishes to drink his life away I say, giver! I could care less if Wolfie has a dad to raise him - I have my own problems to worry about. His music is what matters to me not his personal life. So why you guys take pot shots at someone like Eddie Van Halen, I'm gonna to take some whiskey to the party tonight and look for somebody to sqeeze. [img]/images/graemlins/band.gif[/img]

                            ...and yes, I am on the rag today. [img]/images/graemlins/rant.gif[/img]

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                            Because unlike kidney disease and cancer. The effects of Eddies demise are easily stoppable. You quit

                            Don't look for sympathy from all us guys that lived through the 80's. How poor Eddie with his millions of dollars can't find the strength to quit killing himself. What a bunch of
                            BS. Fuck Eddie he can kill him self with the shit. I know many people that want to live even though their lives are a mess. He is a good guitar player that I give you, but who gives a shit that he squanders his fame and fortune in a bottle. After many years of abuse its not a disease anymore, its a lifestyle he enjoys. Not going to find a lot of shoulders to cry on here. You make a choice you are either tired of living that way or you keep doing it.

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                            • #59
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                              Really? Does Zakk really mean that much to folks? I'm not trying to put him down or anything but I've never thought of Zakk as being anywhere near Eddie's league in terms of guitar playing and song writing.

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                              My intention wasn't to put Zakk in the same category as Eddie in that regard. I was just cracking a joke about a guitarist who many revere and who has a pretty serious alcohol dependancy himself. Lighten up [img]/images/graemlins/poke.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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                              • #60
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                                I have stayed out of these Eddie threads. They sadden me. Eddie is a brilliant player with demons he can not control. I wish he could age gracefully and be a pillar in the music world an produce young bands and shape the industry but I fear he is not capable of this.

                                I do not want to bore you with personal expierience in the matters of mental illness. Surfice it to say it is outside of his control. He lives in a highly anxious state and he is self medicating.

                                This enthusiest internet forum is most likely not the place to rant about his problems or diagnos what they are but he does have problems. Accept for a moment that he may have issues inside his head that are not easily treated.

                                Sometimes alchohol is the disease. A person suffers from alchoholism or a drug use of some type they just can not control. No sympathy? If everyone you know has their mental states in full check then you know very few people.

                                Some times alchohol and drugs are used by someone suffering from other demons to help ease the stress of just being. Maybe they are bipolar or schziophrenic. I have seen first hand what this can do to someone close to you and how powerless you can feel. The treatment can often be as bad as the illness.

                                I do not know the man but his music shaped a large part of my youth. I hope he can achieve some kind of ballance between treatment and creativity.
                                It's not a competition, it's a community

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