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  • #61
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    We'll probably have our an on-board memorial (like we did with the other JCFr who passed away, sadly, I forgot his name, but I know he was killed in a car accident)

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    StuTDavis RIP
    Scott
    Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong.

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    • #62
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      We'll probably have our an on-board memorial (like we did with the other JCFr who passed away, sadly, I forgot his name, but I know he was killed in a car accident)

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      StuTDavis RIP

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      Thank you very much Scott. I'm ashamed that I didn't remember.
      Occupy JCF

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      • #63
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        I lost my mother this past July to complications as a result of alcoholism and mental illness. She was 57. Too young to go. I suffered through years of watching her deteriorate. I was the "tough love" kid out of the 4 of us. I did some things and said some things that I now regret, but I did it in an attempt to straighten her out. It was a reversal of roles: I became the parent and she became the child. I punished, shamed, and grounded her.

        I never understood the mental illness part of her condition and I thought she used it as a means to get away with her conduct. I now wish I could have had more compassion for her illnesses. I'm not sure if it would have helped her to live longer but I wouldn't be carrying around as much guilt and sadness I feel today.

        If Eddie is indeed someone we care about, perhaps we should do something to help him rather than judge him. Perhaps say a prayer. It sounds cheesy. Hear me out - my mother prayed for me all the time - yet she was the one in need! I was too cool to pray for her until one day she was gone. Now I pray for her often. I'm NOT a religious guy. I'm not gonna throw a can on stage and scribble SAVE EDDIE on it and ask for donations. I will say some words to the sky on his behalf while he's still trying to make it on this earth. I know how tough it was for mom.

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        • #64
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          I have stayed out of these Eddie threads. They sadden me. Eddie is a brilliant player with demons he can not control. I wish he could age gracefully and be a pillar in the music world an produce young bands and shape the industry but I fear he is not capable of this.

          I do not want to bore you with personal expierience in the matters of mental illness. Surfice it to say it is outside of his control. He lives in a highly anxious state and he is self medicating.

          This enthusiest internet forum is most likely not the place to rant about his problems or diagnos what they are but he does have problems. Accept for a moment that he may have issues inside his head that are not easily treated.

          Sometimes alchohol is the disease. A person suffers from alchoholism or a drug use of some type they just can not control. No sympathy? If everyone you know has their mental states in full check then you know very few people.

          Some times alchohol and drugs are used by someone suffering from other demons to help ease the stress of just being. Maybe they are bipolar or schziophrenic. I have seen first hand what this can do to someone close to you and how powerless you can feel. The treatment can often be as bad as the illness.

          I do not know the man but his music shaped a large part of my youth. I hope he can achieve some kind of ballance between treatment and creativity.

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          Hey I understand where you are coming from and maybe I am a little harsh. But I grew up with Alcoholic parents. I am well aware of the disease. Its hard to have sympathy. I won't say any more as everyone has there own opinions. I know and have known so many fucked up people is why I feel the way I do. Went through many years of self abuse myself and have quit just about everything there is at one time or another. Its not that I don't have empathy for folks. Its just I know this shit inside and out. The desire to quit comes from inside when you are sick of how you effect others. Because when you self medicate you don't give a shit about yourself. You do it in hopes of dying and making everything go away. When you get tired of dragging all those around you in, you make a change. Addiction is viscious and doesn't leave room for anything or anyone else. Its sad yes and I will help anyone I can that will try.We all have our demons and key to survival is controlling them. S

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          • #65
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            I have stayed out of these Eddie threads. They sadden me. Eddie is a brilliant player with demons he can not control. I wish he could age gracefully and be a pillar in the music world an produce young bands and shape the industry but I fear he is not capable of this.

            I do not want to bore you with personal expierience in the matters of mental illness. Surfice it to say it is outside of his control. He lives in a highly anxious state and he is self medicating.

            This enthusiest internet forum is most likely not the place to rant about his problems or diagnos what they are but he does have problems. Accept for a moment that he may have issues inside his head that are not easily treated.

            Sometimes alchohol is the disease. A person suffers from alchoholism or a drug use of some type they just can not control. No sympathy? If everyone you know has their mental states in full check then you know very few people.

            Some times alchohol and drugs are used by someone suffering from other demons to help ease the stress of just being. Maybe they are bipolar or schziophrenic. I have seen first hand what this can do to someone close to you and how powerless you can feel. The treatment can often be as bad as the illness.

            I do not know the man but his music shaped a large part of my youth. I hope he can achieve some kind of ballance between treatment and creativity.

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            Hey I understand where you are coming from and maybe I am a little harsh. But I grew up with Alcoholic parents. I am well aware of the disease. Its hard to have sympathy. I won't say any more as everyone has there own opinions. I know and have known so many fucked up people is why I feel the way I do. Went through many years of self abuse myself and have quit just about everything there is at one time or another. Its not that I don't have empathy for folks. Its just I know this shit inside and out. The desire to quit comes from inside when you are sick of how you effect others. Because when you self medicate you don't give a shit about yourself. You do it in hopes of dying and making everything go away. When you get tired of dragging all those around you in, you make a change. Addiction is viscious and doesn't leave room for anything or anyone else. Its sad yes and I will help anyone I can that will try.We all have our demons and key to survival is controlling them. S

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            Dude, you have a Stoli bottle as an Av!!

            Well, good taste in Vodka...I'll give you that.

            Mmmmm, Stoli Gold. Thinking about it right now.

            Mike
            Sleep. The sound doesn't collapse to riffs of early eyes either.

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            • #66
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              yea I guess I can't talk to much shit. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] I drink some and have to be aware that alcoholism in my family. Spent many a night on the phone with the old man asking him when he was coming home, now he has passed away. Alcohol was never my drug of choice when I was younger. I love Stoli, its all I drink(alcohol wise) other than an occasional beer. Stoli gold is great just spendy. I was in the liquor store a while back and the have this 60 dollar a 5th imported Stoli. Never seen it before but hoping a special occassion arises.

              Don't get me wrong. I am non judgemental as to how someone wishes to live just some things I choose not to do. Its just if thats how choose to live then your going to pay a price and getting sympathy for it once it becomes a lifestyle seems silly. As adults we all know the score.

              I guess Eddie pisses me of cause he kicked Dave out and to me its just not VH without him [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

              Leon

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              • #67
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                Its ironic that alcohol is killing Eddie but making Sammy rich.

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                LOL - that is an incredibly perceptive statement right there. good call.
                the guitar players look damaged - they've been outcasts all their lives

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                • #68
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                  I have stayed out of these Eddie threads. They sadden me. Eddie is a brilliant player with demons he can not control. I wish he could age gracefully and be a pillar in the music world an produce young bands and shape the industry but I fear he is not capable of this.

                  I do not want to bore you with personal expierience in the matters of mental illness. Surfice it to say it is outside of his control. He lives in a highly anxious state and he is self medicating.

                  This enthusiest internet forum is most likely not the place to rant about his problems or diagnos what they are but he does have problems. Accept for a moment that he may have issues inside his head that are not easily treated.

                  Sometimes alchohol is the disease. A person suffers from alchoholism or a drug use of some type they just can not control. No sympathy? If everyone you know has their mental states in full check then you know very few people.

                  Some times alchohol and drugs are used by someone suffering from other demons to help ease the stress of just being. Maybe they are bipolar or schziophrenic. I have seen first hand what this can do to someone close to you and how powerless you can feel. The treatment can often be as bad as the illness.

                  I do not know the man but his music shaped a large part of my youth. I hope he can achieve some kind of ballance between treatment and creativity.

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                  I never considered that EVH might be a victim of mentall illness, but you're probably right. Although we all idolize his legacy, I'm sure that dealing with his level of success would take a major toll on anyone.
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                  • #69
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                    i'll never knock my biggest hero or influence ever. i don't care if he drinks ajax. why are you guys nice to me? i'm the biggest junkie on this board by a long shot. i losteverything i had in life, and it was a lot of nice stuff, like a 20k diningroom table, the most beautiful furniture you've ever seen, 60 something guitars, a gorgeous house, a wife, i'm down to selling songbbooks and all i have done in life is shoot drugs and sleep with a fairly large amount of women. i have done nothing in my life but throw it away, i never made great albums, changed the guitar as a whole, or influenced anybody, yet everyone is cool to me on the boards i write on, so why knock eddie, knock me instead , i deserve it. the guy was the most badass motherfucker out of the gate of all time.
                    Not helping the situation since 1965!

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                    • #70
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                      Well frankly Tommy you are nice person, treat people with respect, humble and a cool motherfucker and Eddie is a, well nevermind...
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                      • #71
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                        Well frankly Tommy you are nice person, treat people with respect, humble and a cool motherfucker and Eddie is a, well nevermind...

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                        I'll finish that. Eddie is one of the reasons a lot of us play guitar. It's sad to see the state he's in but holy shit the dude gave us some of the most stunningly bad add fucking guitar playing ever. We are truly fortunate that he ever grabbed a guitar.

                        I'll take Eddie's behavior over a lot of other so-called guitar heros.
                        I want REAL change. I want dead bodies littering the capitol.

                        - Newc

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                        • #72
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                          i'll never knock my biggest hero or influence ever. i don't care if he drinks ajax. why are you guys nice to me? i'm the biggest junkie on this board by a long shot. i losteverything i had in life, and it was a lot of nice stuff, like a 20k diningroom table, the most beautiful furniture you've ever seen, 60 something guitars, a gorgeous house, a wife, i'm down to selling songbbooks and all i have done in life is shoot drugs and sleep with a fairly large amount of women. i have done nothing in my life but throw it away, i never made great albums, changed the guitar as a whole, or influenced anybody, yet everyone is cool to me on the boards i write on, so why knock eddie, knock me instead , i deserve it. the guy was the most badass motherfucker out of the gate of all time.

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                          I see your point Tommy. Maybe a kick to the pants will get you back on the straight and narrow. I think it's because of how he's affected us is why this is such a touchy subject.

                          Overall, I don't think I'm tearing him apart. I just think that it's a shame. I don't believe Eddie is done amazing us with his talent. I'm convinced he's got a lot more in him. I'm just pointing out that his disease has the best of him. But instead of trying to focus energy on beating it, he chooses to appear at NAMM, Dimebag's Funeral, on a reunion tour with Van Hagar - drunk, in as little control of things as he could possibly be.

                          It hurts to hear/see the best of what the man has done and then some 20+ years later, hear/see a legend just self destruct before our very eyes.

                          Honestly, it's like standing in Wisconsin on August 26th 1990, watching Stevie Ray's helicopter go into the mountain in slow motion. Or watching the drunk driver in slow motion on October 17th 1993 creeping into Criss Oliva's lane.
                          Occupy JCF

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                          • #73
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                            Tommy, I'm going to go out on a limb here. You do seem like a nice person. You treat people with respect, you are humble, and you do seem like a cool MF'r.

                            I have to ask you one question...Do you have your shit together now or are you still shooting drugs?

                            If you are still shooting drugs, and you were a personal friend of mine, I would probably kick your ass everytime I saw you until I couldn't stand to look at you anymore. Hell, I only know you from an internet message board and I still want to kick your ass if you are shooting drugs.

                            Dammit, you are a nice guy. And just like Eddie, we all know what it's like to express yourself with music. That's what connects us.

                            The only problem, is that if you were shooting drugs, I probably wouldn't want to be around you, not even to kick your ass. In my early years playing music, I was around too many addicts who only end up stealing your gear and breaking into your car. Hell, my bass players brother broke into his own home and made it look like a burglery.

                            You say you had a lot and pissed it all away doing drugs. This might be a stretch, but I think the only difference in Eddie's case is that he has a bigger pile of money.

                            I'm sure we would all be thrilled to meet Eddie, but probably couldn't stand to be around him for very long once we really got to know him.

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                            • #74
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                              i'll never knock my biggest hero or influence ever. i don't care if he drinks ajax. why are you guys nice to me? i'm the biggest junkie on this board by a long shot. i losteverything i had in life, and it was a lot of nice stuff, like a 20k diningroom table, the most beautiful furniture you've ever seen, 60 something guitars, a gorgeous house, a wife, i'm down to selling songbbooks and all i have done in life is shoot drugs and sleep with a fairly large amount of women. i have done nothing in my life but throw it away, i never made great albums, changed the guitar as a whole, or influenced anybody, yet everyone is cool to me on the boards i write on, so why knock eddie, knock me instead , i deserve it. the guy was the most badass motherfucker out of the gate of all time.

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                              Probably right about the knock eddie shit I jusr got on the bandwagon I guess.

                              Nobody can put you back there bro but you. We all have regrets and been there bro aint going back. Look forward not behind.

                              Far as peoples opinion-fuck em besides everyone can respect your honesty and the effort you have been making to get away from the shit. Keep rolling bro we all have ups and downs- I could definitely give you a rum for your money on the number of times I have bottomed out [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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                              • #75
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                                If it wern't for Ed , I would not be here on this forum right now..as a matter of fact this forum may have never existed..just like "It's a wonderful Life "..that's a fair Analogy IMO.

                                There were THREE main players that changed guitar forever..first Jimi..he was the epitome of feel and flamboyance , none like nobody has ever seen before..

                                Then came Ed ...he took it to another level and revolutionized not only guitar playing in general , but amp and guitar innovations like no other..he is probably the most single influential guitarist of all time....he changed my life

                                Then Yngwie came out and put Neo Classical virtocity on the map..even tho Uli had did this earlier virtualy unnoticed.

                                Yes the were many great guitarist amoung these greats...but none more inpriring and influential than these three..

                                I am probably THE biggest EVH freak here...I wanted his tone , I wanted his chops , his fire , I was in a VH tribute band for 3 years..it was a labor of love..VH changed my life as he did Randy's , Criss's , Lynch's and just about every other shred guitarist you can think of..

                                But his era is over..its done ..he made his mark. Sadly he did not improve his craft with age as did Uli and Schenker and many more who stayed focused and dedicated even thru alcohol or drugs..I don't think many of these guys are sober anyway..none of them. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

                                I think Ed drinks because he's not on top anymore..and he's not on top anymore because he drinks..His inspiration came in a bottle..well that inspiration isn't there anymore no matter how many bottles ..he is not in Euporia anymore nor probaly never will be..He is a very bitter man..His gift will be always remebered , but he is not aging gracefuly ..not as a human or a player...he's done..he will never be the man , the entity he once was..he is NO longer the cocky , confident , cool lookin' punk you see in that Jump Video 21 years ago..his time is over..sad but true!

                                Randy's death was unfortunate but he left on a good note , Jimi left on a good note , Criss left on a good note , Shawn Lane left on a good note , Dime left on a good note ..Ed is not leaving the same way..and it is self induced. He makes me sad. He was MY heroe..a heroes like no other..

                                But I can not respect those who can't respect themselves..Jimmy and Chuck are very respected here..are they my heroes NO..friends yes..and you both have my upmost respect. The day you lose that respect is the day you don't respect yourself and or others.

                                I have a new Heroe now ..with passion and fire like none no other at this time..his name is Jeff Loomis.

                                Jimi had his time , Ed had his , Yngwie is still kickin' ass..and now make way for a new king of metal guitar Jeff Loomis..who's been cutting his teeth for 2/3 his life refining his skills and now is just surfacing...just starting to get the recognition that is long overdue IMO!!!

                                Bill Z Bub

                                Zakk said it best when he met Ed at Dime's funeral..he lost TWO heroes that day..
                                "Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
                                Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!

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