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  • #31
    I'm sure burl is tough to finish, but it can be done.

    Here's My Roscoe SKB3005 bass with a carved buckeye burl top:





    And here's what the body wood originally looked like:



    - E.
    Good Lord! The rod up that man's butt must have a rod up its butt!

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    • #32
      the reason why you see spalt so thick (although i think that 3/4" is a bit more than needed) is because it's so delicate. if it's a little thicker (1/4"), it helps out. that's definitely something that you need to fill with epoxy before clearing. spalt soaks clear up like a sponge. learned that one the hard way.

      agreed on the unknown cause of birdseye, but the fact that flamed maple is caused from what's basically stretch marks cracks me up sometimes.

      Originally posted by Chrisb View Post
      POssibly but I've never heard that. Spalted Maple however is diseased wood, its not only diseased, its dying wood. And EXTREMELY unstable, which is why I'm a little suprised when I see 3/4 spalt tops. It works great as a veneered top. I do remember hearing that burl is caused by a fungus so maybe thats what your luthier friend meant. Burl also is extremely unstable but I've seen Burl bodies before so I dunno if its just that its difficult to finish.
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      • #33
        man, that last pic looks like explosive tree diarrhea.

        Originally posted by AlexL View Post
        I'm sure burl is tough to finish, but it can be done.

        Here's My Roscoe SKB3005 bass with a carved buckeye burl top:





        And here's what the body wood originally looked like:



        - E.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by sully View Post
          man, that last pic looks like explosive tree diarrhea.
          Ewww. Guess you're right! The finished bass is a work of art, though.


          - E.
          Good Lord! The rod up that man's butt must have a rod up its butt!

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          • #35
            agreed. that bass looks like it's carved from stone. very cool!
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            • #36
              Update

              FMIC policy is I have to take it to an FMIC authorized service center near me, which I will be doing. Then they decide what to do from there. This is what Matt told me I will keep you guys posted.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by AK47 View Post
                Update

                FMIC policy is I have to take it to an FMIC authorized service center near me, which I will be doing. Then they decide what to do from there. This is what Matt told me I will keep you guys posted.

                That is still such a load of shit. Time means nothing to these guys when they already have your money...

                "Yes, we understand that your guitar is worthless after a 14 month wait and that you have established this fact by taking it to a qualified guitar technician. However, in order to prolong your agony and allow us more time to build warped necks, we would prefer that you take it to yet another source, a FMIC authorized tech, who may try to tell you everything is fine even if it isn't. Oh, and be sure to stop by an authorized McDonalds on your way and let the fry-guy have a look, but his word is only good if it has been approved by an authorized manager. We hope to resolve this in a timely manner. We think that by the time you follow our instructions, the tree used to make your new neck will be grown and ready. By the way, we will not be reimbursing you for tech fees, shipping or gasoline, even though you shouldn't have had to inconvenience yourself over this BRAND NEW guitar.

                Thank you,
                FMIC"


                Good luck, AK47. Just out of curiosity, are you going to have a figured or plain neck put back on, and are you going to have it painted to match like the original?

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                • #38
                  when I was first ordering an MCS guitar Neal Moser told me to stay away from figured necks because they're very unstable.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by AK47 View Post
                    FMIC policy is I have to take it to an FMIC authorized service center near me, which I will be doing. Then they decide what to do from there. This is what Matt told me I will keep you guys posted.
                    Yeah, I was told the same thing, for a different, but still wood related problem - the service centre basically told me that as it was an issue with wood and the guitar was over 6 months old, FMIC wouldn't do anything about it as part of the warranty.

                    It seems to me that the Jackson Charvel warranty is just one big sheet of shit - virtually everything is excluded anyway, and now 'wood' seems to be their get out of jail free 'act of god' card..... Lifetime Warranty my ass.
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                    • #40
                      It's a "LIMITED Lifetime Warranty"
                      Heavy emphasis on the work LIMITED.
                      Meaning they can come up with any lame ass excuse to deny your warranty claim if they don't feel like fixing your guitar.
                      -Rick

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                      • #41
                        I hope it works out for you. Do yourself a favor get everythig in writing. Have the warranty center give you a copy of theire response in writing. If they say they will replace it get an estimate delivery date in writting. You should probale have the whole guitar go back just so they can fit it right. Get that in writing.

                        I had a horrible experience with JCF warranty and the only thing that saved me was copies of the letters and e-mail that I kept. I still can't belive what happened and it took a lot of time and work to get the situation straightened out. A damn shame that many companies treat customers like dirt.

                        PM me and I can give you details.

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                        • #42
                          I wanted to resurrect this thread to let you know the guitar is finally at Jackson Charvel.

                          I hope they authorize a replacement neck. I was at odds with the local FMIC tech that high action was acceptable on the neck. This went on for a long time

                          On a whim I took the guitar by a local GC and they took my documentation from Torres Engineering stating the neck was warped and authorized a return to FMIC all in the same day.

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                          • #43
                            jesus 15 months or more....

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by eddie_van_earache View Post
                              jesus 15 months or more....
                              Part of that was out of frustration and not wanting to deal with the situations after being told no go by the tech. Then I let it sit to see if I tried in a few months since I had to travel to Europe then maybe they would finally authorize the return and they did.

                              I finally got it sent back to the factory last week.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by shreddermon View Post
                                I really and truly believe that many figured necks need a hard finish to keep them stable.

                                Very sorry to hear this. The neck is drop dead gorgeous. I hope J/C takes care of it for you in a timely manner. Unfortunately, though, from personal expereince I can say that you should expect a long wait.
                                Humm...this may be why Lee at GMW always seals his figured maple
                                necks? Clear coat everywhere... 360 degrees, (which i actually like)

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