Charvel USA Production Model Series

[Usercool]

I want one of those Style 1 San Dimas in red so badly...
Too bad they'll never make their way over here.

[wanthairspray]

yer they do, but you don`t wanna know the price in sterling beleive me.

What with Matts announcement, i`m really stuck as to what to do now Have a UK shop trying to price/import me one at the moment, should know by Monday what price they can do. If it was too costly, i was gonna order an orange socal from Matt, and have it shipped to my brothers in the US, then have my dad bring it back to the UK for me while my parents are on holiday in August.

Gutted

Gack. Welp, if you get a price on the import, could ya let me know? Thru pm or email or sending a msg thru my youtube page (link in sig...??) I would appreciate it muchly.

[wibble]

Do Charvel have authorised dealers in the UK?

yer they do, but you don`t wanna know the price in sterling beleive me.

What with Matts announcement, i`m really stuck as to what to do now Have a UK shop trying to price/import me one at the moment, should know by Monday what price they can do. If it was too costly, i was gonna order an orange socal from Matt, and have it shipped to my brothers in the US, then have my dad bring it back to the UK for me while my parents are on holiday in August.

Gutted

[Ralph E.]

Couldn't have drank too much I didn't get my usual drunken call .. :ROTF:

and...

good point.

[Ralph E.]

~K~ wins

and I've seen Ralph drink. Nothing he says under the influence counts.

Good point...

[~K~]

~K~ wins

and I've seen Ralph drink. Nothing he says under the influence counts.

Couldn't have drank too much I didn't get my usual drunken call .. :ROTF:

[Newc]

~K~ wins

and I've seen Ralph drink. Nothing he says under the influence counts.

[~K~]

LOL! OK Kev. I'll call you on that. Its not like you haven't held on to a few. Not pissing on the new ones, I own some new pointies that are staying put, but please. Hand made correct custom shop order meant something then, and still means something now.

Nope you're correct I've held onto a few and like Ralph I'm one of the luckier people to have owned quite a few in my years. My issue is that people assume CNC means inferior product because vintage collectors write off the newer guitars as crap compared to 79-86.

I've made no bones about saying that I'm in manufacturing and I have a good grasp of the difference between manual and cnc, in fact by trade I am a model maker/tool and die guy. I started out machining the old fashioned way and now i do both manual and cnc work

Years ago I made a handful of "charvel style" brass bridges. I designed those in cad and machined the on a cnc, then I hand polished the machine marks out of them. A few people including Sully got some. I challenge anyone to tell us that because they were cnc'ed that they are inferior to an original bridge.

While a guitar is made of different materials the processes aren't much different.

Manually the wood is rough sawn, run through pin routers and hand sanded. Hand sanded means a belt sander not someone sitting there with sandpaper in hand.

The other way

Rough sawn, cnc'ed and hand sanded.

One could easily argue that the newer guitars would have more consistency because they are cnc'ed. The reality is that the Radii on a pin router should be reasonably consistent, as consistent as cnc. The difference comes in ones muscle memory in the sanding process...

There was a big bitch fest over the 25th Ann guitars with some vintage guys dismissing them as crap and fenders. It's well known that the necks evolved from #1 to #100. When I stated the one I had felt like charvel I was dismissed as not knowing what I was talking about, sticking up for the company or whatever. The truth was that I took a profile gage and checked my 25th against my 86 and they matched almost perfectly. So one would have to argue to make their point that my 86 must be a fender yet I've had collectors from this board play it and claim "mojo"

A neck that has a set of charvel dimensioned specs that are adhered too on a pin router and adhered to on a cnc or no less charvel than the other.

Mojo is a magic that a guitar earns over time by being played and not by the building or tools it was built with ... that tends to be a vintage guys investment insurance.

Until you lay a San Dimas and a So Cal charvie side by side and inspect em you cannot lessen either guitar for what the are.... If they are both dimensionally correct and of good quality then they are equals. To dismiss them before trying them would be irresponsible

[Ralph E.]

Now that i'm sober, i'm confused...

[RR05xx]

James I got a few on order from Music Zoo..once they ship, feel free to drop by the house and try one out.

Thanks Trace, much appreciated. Talk about a side by side comparisan!

And while I appreciate the "correction" Newc, Ralph seems to disagree with you. LOL!

[gregmarmon]

yeah i was no 5 on the list. i will be calling performance guitar as soon as they open on sat am to get mine set up-if he is getting matt's guitars he should be able to take care of everybody.I just ordered the so cal black so i figured evryone is going for the tangerine so cal so hopefully i will get mine without much delay

[Newc]

Hand made correct custom shop order meant something then, and still means something now.

Actually, that was never a part of the San Dimas vs New Ones discussion.
The discussion was about how "some people" will sneer at the very existence of these without any solid evidence to back up their disdain, only an attitude of "it wasn't made in Glendora in 198x, so it's crap".

[RobRR]

He said he hell be filling his customers orders first obviously, but from what I understand, hell be getting the guitars that were going to Matts. I sure hope I dont miss out, I put my deposit down on the Tangerine SoCal early Monday morning the day they started taking preorders... I was number 3 on the list.

[gregmarmon]

since i will not be able to call the new dealer until the am how much longer did he say we would have to wait to get our orders filled i did not get the email until i got off work today at 500p and since my refund was going back on my check card i have seen no credit as of yet i will have to wait for that credit to clear before i can pay another dealer to hold me a guitar-hopefully i won's have to wait for next quarters shipment. I assume he will have to fil his original customer orders before ours get filled hopefully he will have enough guitars to cover all of us

[Ralph E.]

LOL! OK Kev. I'll call you on that. Its not like you haven't held on to a few. Not pissing on the new ones, I own some new pointies that are staying put, but please. Hand made correct custom shop order meant something then, and still means something now.

That said, I am excited about a new affordable line and admit that I am disappointed that Matt will not end up with any as I had really wanted to try before I buy for reasons we do not need to go into.

No way. I've had way too many originals to know that K is right.

It's all about protecting one's investment, which is fine. There will always be those who buy into it...