Charvel USA Production Model Series

[Ralph E.]

Now that i'm sober, i'm confused...

[~K~]

LOL! OK Kev. I'll call you on that. Its not like you haven't held on to a few. Not pissing on the new ones, I own some new pointies that are staying put, but please. Hand made correct custom shop order meant something then, and still means something now.

Nope you're correct I've held onto a few and like Ralph I'm one of the luckier people to have owned quite a few in my years. My issue is that people assume CNC means inferior product because vintage collectors write off the newer guitars as crap compared to 79-86.

I've made no bones about saying that I'm in manufacturing and I have a good grasp of the difference between manual and cnc, in fact by trade I am a model maker/tool and die guy. I started out machining the old fashioned way and now i do both manual and cnc work

Years ago I made a handful of "charvel style" brass bridges. I designed those in cad and machined the on a cnc, then I hand polished the machine marks out of them. A few people including Sully got some. I challenge anyone to tell us that because they were cnc'ed that they are inferior to an original bridge.

While a guitar is made of different materials the processes aren't much different.

Manually the wood is rough sawn, run through pin routers and hand sanded. Hand sanded means a belt sander not someone sitting there with sandpaper in hand.

The other way

Rough sawn, cnc'ed and hand sanded.

One could easily argue that the newer guitars would have more consistency because they are cnc'ed. The reality is that the Radii on a pin router should be reasonably consistent, as consistent as cnc. The difference comes in ones muscle memory in the sanding process...

There was a big bitch fest over the 25th Ann guitars with some vintage guys dismissing them as crap and fenders. It's well known that the necks evolved from #1 to #100. When I stated the one I had felt like charvel I was dismissed as not knowing what I was talking about, sticking up for the company or whatever. The truth was that I took a profile gage and checked my 25th against my 86 and they matched almost perfectly. So one would have to argue to make their point that my 86 must be a fender yet I've had collectors from this board play it and claim "mojo"

A neck that has a set of charvel dimensioned specs that are adhered too on a pin router and adhered to on a cnc or no less charvel than the other.

Mojo is a magic that a guitar earns over time by being played and not by the building or tools it was built with ... that tends to be a vintage guys investment insurance.

Until you lay a San Dimas and a So Cal charvie side by side and inspect em you cannot lessen either guitar for what the are.... If they are both dimensionally correct and of good quality then they are equals. To dismiss them before trying them would be irresponsible

[Newc]

~K~ wins

and I've seen Ralph drink. Nothing he says under the influence counts.

[~K~]

~K~ wins

and I've seen Ralph drink. Nothing he says under the influence counts.

Couldn't have drank too much I didn't get my usual drunken call .. :ROTF:

[Ralph E.]

~K~ wins

and I've seen Ralph drink. Nothing he says under the influence counts.

Good point...

[Ralph E.]

Couldn't have drank too much I didn't get my usual drunken call .. :ROTF:

and...

good point.

[wibble]

Do Charvel have authorised dealers in the UK?

yer they do, but you don`t wanna know the price in sterling beleive me.

What with Matts announcement, i`m really stuck as to what to do now Have a UK shop trying to price/import me one at the moment, should know by Monday what price they can do. If it was too costly, i was gonna order an orange socal from Matt, and have it shipped to my brothers in the US, then have my dad bring it back to the UK for me while my parents are on holiday in August.

Gutted

[wanthairspray]

yer they do, but you don`t wanna know the price in sterling beleive me.

What with Matts announcement, i`m really stuck as to what to do now Have a UK shop trying to price/import me one at the moment, should know by Monday what price they can do. If it was too costly, i was gonna order an orange socal from Matt, and have it shipped to my brothers in the US, then have my dad bring it back to the UK for me while my parents are on holiday in August.

Gutted

Gack. Welp, if you get a price on the import, could ya let me know? Thru pm or email or sending a msg thru my youtube page (link in sig...??) I would appreciate it muchly.

[Usercool]

I want one of those Style 1 San Dimas in red so badly...
Too bad they'll never make their way over here.

[wibble]

Gack. Welp, if you get a price on the import, could ya let me know? Thru pm or email or sending a msg thru my youtube page (link in sig...??) I would appreciate it muchly.

£7-800 i`ve been told to expect by an official Charvel UK dealer, am hoping that by importing privately, i can get m costs down, tho i`m not holding my breath. Import duty & VAT kinda kills these for us outside the US sadly . I know it works both ways, and the US pays more for our goods, but that doesn`t take away the sting.

[wanthairspray]

£7-800 i`ve been told to expect by an official Charvel UK dealer, am hoping that by importing privately, i can get m costs down, tho i`m not holding my breath. Import duty & VAT kinda kills these for us outside the US sadly . I know it works both ways, and the US pays more for our goods, but that doesn`t take away the sting.

Argh...they have done the traditional "an $800 guitar = an £800 guitar!" thing. Makes sense, as FMIC are makin' em. Vat and Import duty would probably make it at a neat £1000. Good luck on the importing idea. I might try the same, or some kind of freight forwarding idea.

[BenoA]

Ok ok ok... This thread is now at 9 pages!!! And I read all the messages!

But... This pic... stolen from another thread... Is SUPER sexy!!!



So, can someone tell me what is a "san dimas" neck profile...

The only reference I have is my Charvel model 4.

[Rich#6]

I haven't played one of these yet but a san dimas profile is like a model 4 but thinner. think speed neck. It's been a while since I had a model 4 too but I am comparing my sandimas pointy to my model 2.

[savage]

I haven't played one of these yet but a san dimas profile is like a model 4 but thinner. think speed neck. It's been a while since I had a model 4 too but I am comparing my sandimas pointy to my model 2.

yeah it is a rounded D shape but very thin(front to back) compared to most strat necks
these necks are based on the '82 necks which have to be played to really experience them

[BenoA]

Thanks a lot for the answer guys!!! I can smell Charvel GAS!!! Dudes, that red guitar is sexy!

Anyone knows if they plan having a pointy version?