FIRST ONES HERE! Charvel SoCal pics!

[savage]

my exp has been the Grovers are $35-40 and Schallers are $60-70.
I've always seen a big difference in price, so seeing the Grovers on these guitars did not surprise me.

yeah and i found out these are 18:1 gears
tuning will be more easy/ precise before locking the nut down
I always prefered the 18:1's even with a OFR

[BloodRose]

Not in my opinion.

Just buy one, and keep that model 4.

Ok, Ill keep both my 4s

[chrisolson]

It looks great and I love some of the colors they're using, but I have one complaint.

I hate when I need to make small neck adjustments and the adjustment is at the heel.

I makes no sense to me. I'm sure they have their reasons, but it makes it a PITA to make small adjustments.
MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT AT THE HEADSTOCK.....DAMN!

Anyway, can't wait to try one of these out myself.

100% agreed on that fucked up truss rod placement. Might be a deal breaker in my eyes. I built two guitars that have the same thing going on and I HATE IT!!

[chrisolson]

Sully, I'm just used to seeing "beans" on Gibsons. Seeing them on a Charvel just caught me by surprise.

BCR Gunslinger had Grovers on them - for the most part. That's my first exposure to them, and that's where I decided they were pretty damn good tuners! You won't see too many people complaining about the tuners on a Gunslinger...

[savage]

BCR Gunslinger had Grovers on them - for the most part. That's my first exposure to them, and that's where I decided they were pretty damn good tuners! You won't see too many people complaining about the tuners on a Gunslinger...

18:1 ratio right?

[nhspike]

Ok, Ill keep both my 4s

Cool.
You won't regret that move any time soon!!!