What corners were cut on the production models

[busdriver]

It's a one piece neck. No difference in the skunk stripe material.

The material may be the same, but it's very thin. At least on my guitar. At that particular spot the skunk stripe broke into 2 bigger pieces and many small ones. I glued the two big ones back and filled the holes with epoxy. It was impossible to put the small ones back together. In the hole I did not see the truss rod. There was some white material under the skunk stripe. Looked like a trussrod sleeve or something like that.

[Carbuff]

Apparantly not priced to sell enough, because it didn't. And I don't think its the economy, its the limited market for a 1 hum Ferarri Red pointy.

Yes, I agree as I stated that also in that same post. Although, I bet it would have sold if it had a floyd.

[Grandturk]

"At Charvel, we just charge the extra $2k for fretwork, I guess. Cos our fretters really step up when we put "not So Cal" on the work ticket."

Have a look at the fret ends on a Pro-Mod and then have a look at the fret ends on a Custom shop job. They are both playable, but the Custom Shop's look a hell of a lot better and feel a lot smoother (because they're rounded). I just played a bunch of Custom Shops this weekend and they all had nicer fretwork than the Pro-Mods. That doesn't make the Pro-Mods shit - it makes the Custom Shops better (hint - you pay for better).

[Tito Jackson]

I am late to this discussion, but I do get it.

Basically, Charvel is talking out both sides of their mouth - $3k for reissues, EVH series, etc., and $1k for So-Cal, but it's STILL truly Charvel in terms of quality and brand.....

I call it a Mexican Strat Charvel...

"At Charvel, we just charge the extra $2k for fretwork, I guess. Cos our fretters really step up when we put "not So Cal" on the work ticket."

[85 San Dimas]

actually Carbuff I'm with you, and it is funny how its described. Bionic has a point, its just that as everyone knows I don't care a lot for "confusion" in the Charvel world.

grandturk, true dat pointy.

[Grandturk]

That being said, I think his guitar is priced to sell and there really is no need for the seller to bash the new Charvels. I think at his price you have to blame the economy if it doesnt sell.

Apparantly not priced to sell enough, because it didn't. And I don't think its the economy, its the limited market for a 1 hum Ferarri Red pointy.

[Carbuff]

But not at his price point Bionic.

I think what Bionic is trying to say is that he shouldnt be comparing his guitar to a so-cal but to the San Dimas model 1. They are closer to being similar as they are both rear loaded. Aside from the pointy headstock, the trem and an extra pickup they are quite similar. I think the guys real problem is that his guitar is a 1 hum, pointy, v-trem guitar that cost him more than a more versatile similar quality guitar can be had for and hes just pissed so he's bashing the new charvels to make his guitar look better. If I remember correctly, those models were bashed as well when thay came out. That being said, I think his guitar is priced to sell and there really is no need for the seller to bash the new Charvels. I think at his price you have to blame the economy if it doesnt sell. I only posted the auction because I thought the description was blatantly ridiculous and inaccurate. It made me laugh and reminded me of some of the earlier posts in this thread that suggested that these might be mexican made guitars. I really didnt think it would stir up this much crap again. I thought everyone would read it and have a good laugh. I guess not.

[Grandturk]

Edited::::: maybe you have a point LOL.

What did they use for the skunk stripe in the other post? I've never heard of collapsing the skunk insert.

I've never heard of that in my entire guitar life. It should be walnut, it should be hard as hell. I'd love to see some pics on that.

[85 San Dimas]

It's a one piece neck. No difference in the skunk stripe material.

No difference from what (by comparison)? Again never heard/seen a skunk stripe bite the dust....

[85 San Dimas]

I think the point is that he's struggling to sell the "superior" guitar for $700 and the "crap" is selling for more money.

Edited::::: maybe you have a point LOL.

What did they use for the skunk stripe in the other post? I've never heard of collapsing the skunk insert.

[85 San Dimas]

Absolutely not my point.. ...The guy in the auction thinks that the entire series is called So-Cal and that they are made in Mexico. He clearly lacks understanding of Charvel's.

IMHO, so does FMIC....BUT be all that as it may Bionic......

Welcome to reality. If they were all from the CS there would be no confusion.

When people call all of them the "real thing" this is what happens. The subtle differences get equalized in the minds of everyone but the people who make them and collect them (and thats just the honest people).

In a year "Efraid of Ebay" is going to be one busy thread.

Don't blame me. Don't get pissed at me, and don't think I don't understand or "get it". I get it, and I told you we were headed here (and worse).

You guys were right, its a gas can.

[Grandturk]

But not at his price point Bionic.

I think the point is that he's struggling to sell the "superior" guitar for $700 and the "crap" is selling for more money.

[Bionic]

Yep, pix.....

Bionic, is there actually a rear loaded truss rod or is the skunk stripe just for looks?

It's a one piece neck. No difference in the skunk stripe material.

[85 San Dimas]

First of all, if he was going to do it right...at least compare it to the proper instrument... it's the San Dimas...not the So-Cal.

But not at his price point Bionic.

[Bionic]

Okay, I understand now. I lost the point of you post in Grandturks high gain assault which drowns out all subtlety.

Well, hmmm.....its like PsychoDave posted earlier in this page that his so-cal felt mass-produced (which it is). Bionic is correct in saying it needs to be compared to a different line ( apples vs. apples) BUT.....I agree with the seller that if he wanted/needed 7 bills for the guitar that a great way to sell it would be:

"Hey, you can have THIS for 7 bills, why pay 11 for a So-Cal (a lesser model)"

I can live with that argument because according to everyone:
that would be a valid arguement and selling point in general because the SD is supposed to be better.

Absolutely not my point... So-Cal = Front Loaded with a PG, San Dimas is rear loaded and no PG. The guy in the auction thinks that the entire series is called So-Cal and that they are made in Mexico. He clearly lacks understanding of Charvel's.