What corners were cut on the production models

[DHardmanJr]

That's too bad your guitar has this issue with the neck pocket. This thread made me go back and check my two So Cals. Both pockets are tight and even.

Sometimes it's worth paying a little more to go through a "known good" dealer with a reasonable return policy - especially if the guitar is bought sight unseen. I have taken some chances on eBay with with a few guitars from peolple claiming to be "authorized dealers" and most have turned out ok.

Of course the best thing is seeing the guitar in person first. I was in Sam Ash in Raleigh yesterday and they said they are "supposed" to get some of the Charvel production models in there but don't know when. I mentioned they were in the Sam Ash store flyer/catalog and the guy remarked "that's how it works here ... if it's in the catalog we don't have it yet". At least he was honest.

I noticed that Sam Ash had very few Jacksons and only one Charvel ... a DeMartini model. Not that many ESPs either ... just a huge gob of Fenders and Gibsons and a fair number of Ibanez. The local Guitar Center was pretty much devoid of any decent guitars with the exception of some PRSs and Gibsons which don't do anything for me. But that's probably a topic for another thread.

[85 San Dimas]

The local Guitar Center was pretty much devoid of any decent guitars.

You said a mouthful and I quoted the one universal truism. Yep, it deserves a thread.

I just saw black So-Cals and Sd2's (new) on sale for $799 today. if you're paying more than that..........well, I wouldn't.

Guitar Center..great for keyboard players I guess but if you love Guitars its a vast wasteland. Too bad no one clues the younger kids in, but we try.

Don't give on the white guitar dude....follow up with a warranty claim...

[Mr.Shreddy]

They do have a decent amp selection though, or at least at my local GC.

[DHardmanJr]

They do have a decent amp selection though, or at least at my local GC.

Yep ... they do carry a nice selection of amps ... more than Sam Ash. They have the full lineup of Mesa Boogies ... but not the new Mark V yet

[Newc]

Wow, you didn't buy from Big Apple Music did you? Those losers hosed me out of the gigbag, warranty card, straplocks (just the actual strap part - good thing the pins were on the guitar), and trem bar.

[85 San Dimas]

They do have a decent amp selection though, or at least at my local GC.

Actually I kind of agree with that. Given the boutique trend in amps GC does do a pretty good job with the Marshall/Mesa lines.

[85 San Dimas]

Wow, you didn't buy from Big Apple Music did you? Those losers hosed me out of the gigbag, warranty card, straplocks (just the actual strap part - good thing the pins were on the guitar), and trem bar.

Well, scratch that store off the list then. That's just unacceptable treatment of a paying customer. I don't know if he said where he bought it.....I think it would be fair to post it if the stor is going to treat him that way so that all the rest of us can avoid that store....like the plague.

[Dogbone]

Wow, you didn't buy from Big Apple Music did you? Those losers hosed me out of the gigbag, warranty card, straplocks (just the actual strap part - good thing the pins were on the guitar), and trem bar.

I wouldn't recommend BAM either... The tried to hose me out of the extra's. But they did finally come through in the end. Got everything

[MakeAJazzNoiseHere]

Don't give on the white guitar dude....

I haven't given up on it... 1/32" is not worth giving up on something. FYI, GM Arctic White is a pretty good match.

Ordered some parts for the black one this morning... The black Korean Floyd will become a spare parts donor, to fix the OFR on my DK1.

[Flatpicker]

You said a mouthful and I quoted the one universal truism. Yep, it deserves a thread.

I just saw black So-Cals and Sd2's (new) on sale for $799 today. if you're paying more than that..........well, I wouldn't.

Guitar Center..great for keyboard players I guess but if you love Guitars its a vast wasteland. Too bad no one clues the younger kids in, but we try.

Don't give on the white guitar dude....follow up with a warranty claim...

Actually, I do a GC run to go thru their used inventory.
You can get off brands pretty cheap, because they don't know what they are.
I'm holding out for a Breadwinner, but have seen Ovation Vipers for $250 without a mark on them.

Also the Guild SG's are seriously under appreciated there.

[Grandturk]

I got my Boogie Mk II from a GC for $400 because they (and a lot of people) have no idea how to dial in a Boogie.

[85 San Dimas]

Actually, I do a GC run to go thru their used inventory.
You can get off brands pretty cheap, because they don't know what they are.
I'm holding out for a Breadwinner, but have seen Ovation Vipers for $250 without a mark on them.

Also the Guild SG's are seriously under appreciated there.

Wow! I'm really impressed on THAT one. Have a big David Cassidy tribute thing going?

Just kidding. Someone else played one as well (maybe David Soul or equal?)

The Guild Sg's (what were they the 400's or something-can't remember) have tempted me more than once as well. That's a nice axe to have laying around at those kinds of prices. Next you'll tell me you want a blonde/maple board Ronson LP or a Dan Armstrong. Man, you're out of the 70's big time. It's a cool thing though.

I haven't seen (outside of Ebay) more than one or 2 Breadwinners in 20 years. Yeah, GC can have some used stuff sometimes. It's a tough deal..GC....although to be fair Ebay has destroyed the used departments almost everywhere other than vintage shops....good luck searching.

[85 San Dimas]

I got my Boogie Mk II from a GC for $400 because they (and a lot of people) have no idea how to dial in a Boogie.

I love old Boogies.....some of the newer ones, yeah it could be a little less......well, let's just say they must be able to buy thier knobs a lot cheaper in bulk. But the amps rock.

[MakeAJazzNoiseHere]

I've made a couple of scores at Guitar Center but from my experience, there is very little worthwhile on the "used" rack at Guitar Center, and Sam Ash doesn't buy used guitars anymore, just do trade-ins, so they have almost nothing.

The whole "relic" phenomenon has led kids to believe that dragging their guitar around by the strap and letting their dog chew on it makes it "cool" and that's mostly what I see on the Used Wall at Guitar Center. They had a used black Flying V that wasn't very old at all (couple years) and the lower front looked like a bag of walnuts. $799 for this POS. No, thank you.

[Flatpicker]

Wow! I'm really impressed on THAT one. Have a big David Cassidy tribute thing going?

Just kidding. Someone else played one as well (maybe David Soul or equal?)

The Guild Sg's (what were they the 400's or something-can't remember) have tempted me more than once as well. That's a nice axe to have laying around at those kinds of prices. Next you'll tell me you want a blonde/maple board Ronson LP or a Dan Armstrong. Man, you're out of the 70's big time. It's a cool thing though.

I haven't seen (outside of Ebay) more than one or 2 Breadwinners in 20 years. Yeah, GC can have some used stuff sometimes. It's a tough deal..GC....although to be fair Ebay has destroyed the used departments almost everywhere other than vintage shops....good luck searching.

Yeah, well.
I know that those funky shapes are not everyone's cup of tea.
Got a couple of good deals in the past.
NOS MM Bongo 5 for $900.00, Dano 59 RI for $94.00.
I keep an eye out for a gently used MM Silo also.

A Dan Armstrong would be cool though, and I've been eying the maple boarded Agile LP's for that 70's vibe.