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    I got my new So-Cal and it plays and sounds great. The only complaint I have is that there's not a lot of pull-back (raising of pitch) on the Floyd Rose. I don't know If I should shim the neck or have the bridge area routed out. I know both would affect tone and sustain. A shim would obviously be cheaper. Thoughts? Thanks

  • #2
    If it were me, I'd do the shim. If you notice any problem from that, then think about plan B, but I think you're going to be fine with a small shim.

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    • #3
      Just get a screwdriver and do like Steve Vai.
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      • #4
        Routing a small amount behind the trem won't have a measurable affect tone or sustain. Adding a shim will create a gap in the pocket between the neck and body.

        As well, the pickups on a SoCal can't adjust too high if you shim the neck. When I put the other neck on my green SC the angle was such that I had to raise the trem considerably. I had tons of room to pull back but the pickups wouldn't get close enough to the strings without top-mounting them ala Dave Murray.
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        • #5
          Screwdriver???

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          • #6
            Thanks Newc, any idea what such a routing would cost me?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cynical1 View Post
              Screwdriver???
              screwdriver ~= chisel
              Dave

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Newc View Post
                Routing a small amount behind the trem won't have a measurable affect tone or sustain. Adding a shim will create a gap in the pocket between the neck and body.
                Not if the shim is done right. And, even if there is a small area, it will have minimal impact on tone or sustain, if anything at all.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by thetruthguy View Post
                  Just get a screwdriver and do like Steve Vai.
                  Dont.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by thetruthguy View Post
                    Just get a screwdriver and do like Steve Vai.
                    I think if you use a Phillips screwdriver, you could probably make the grooves just like he did pretty easily... Just don't slip
                    Don

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by shreddermon View Post
                      Not if the shim is done right. And, even if there is a small area, it will have minimal impact on tone or sustain, if anything at all.
                      + 1


                      as far as the routing cost probably $50 or more if you take it apart yourself and just take them the body. If they have to take it apart and put it back together and do a setup you can expect it to be a lot more.

                      I would try the shim first...

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                      • #12
                        how bout just not pulling back so hard and bend your strings instead.
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                        • #13
                          Rout out the back. IMO.
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                          • #14
                            Not sure exactly how much pull up you want, but here's what I do:

                            I've found that these guitars (and most people set up this way) come with the floyd set parallel to the body. I like the angle of the baseplate to match the angle of the neck, NOT the body - so I set my baseplate tipped forward a little bit: Parallel to the neck and the strings, not the body. This gives a little bit more space for you to yank the trem back before it bottoms out.

                            Obviously, higher action will also give you some more yank.
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