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**toejam** · 06-09-2003, 05:34 PM

Re: Any plans for Maple Boards?

I love maple boards... and eating greasy chicken and fries helps me play faster!! [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
Why not just put a matte satin finish on the fingerboard like Carvin does? All you need is a little guitar polish to clean it once in awhile and you're good to go.

**shreddermon** · 06-09-2003, 05:44 PM

Re: Any plans for Maple Boards?

Thanks for explaining, Chuck. I totally did not understand. My apologies. Nonetheless, it's still a goofy rationale by dealers. Ultimately, it's the consumer who buys, anyway. The dealer is a middle-man. Which leads to...

I don't see too many dealers complaining about PC1s. And why is that? Because they sell. And so would a few more maple-boarded J/Cs. (A professional opinion, me being the market demand expert that I am. [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] ) I'm not saying add it to every model. That's not realistic, nor smart. Just make it an option for one or two lines, particularly USA Charvels.

McD, please give this serious consideration. [img]graemlins/toast.gif[/img]

**shreddermon** · 06-09-2003, 05:53 PM

Re: Any plans for Maple Boards?

P.S.- To be fair, I'm not even in the market for another maple-boarded guitar right now. My personal stable has enough of those, and rosewood or ebony is likely in the cards for the next acquisition. But this is a frequently-requested and popular option around here with the J/C faithful.

**skidd** · 06-09-2003, 06:01 PM

Re: Any plans for Maple Boards?

Raw/Oiled Maple necks to me are the best. All of GC guitars are a mess. Our store in WPB has 90 guys running around with GC passes around there necks, you think one of there classic rock cover/nu-metal staffers could take 10 minutes a day wipe a guitar down, or there crack repair staff (this guy hacked one of my maple necks [img]graemlins/images/icons/mad.gif[/img] )
could throw new strings on or maybe even a set up a few guitars,oh never mind it's guitar center they just want our money and since they run everybody else off we have no where else to go.

[ June 09, 2003, 08:00 PM: Message edited by: skidd ]

RP · 06-09-2003, 06:59 PM

Re: Any plans for Maple Boards?

Put me down in the maple camp, as well. My first Jackson was a 88/89 custom shop strat-body (white/black crackle finish/reverse headstock) with a maple fretboard, and that was the best playing guitar I've ever played.

I would certainly be more apt to purchase maple-boarded guitars if made available. It would be nice to have a choice here and there.

**McD** · 06-09-2003, 11:44 PM

Re: Any plans for Maple Boards?

Originally posted by shreddermon:
McD, please give this serious consideration. [img]graemlins/toast.gif[/img]

Will do, again [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] . We can't make guitars dealers don't buy - make sure you let your local dealer know that you want a Jackson with a maple board, then when we launch one maybe they'll buy into it!

McD

**charvel750** · 06-09-2003, 11:54 PM

Re: Any plans for Maple Boards?

Just curious, do most of you guys dig a maple fingerboard for the looks of it? Or for the tone/playability/whatever of it? I like maple necks for their cosmetic draw, but almost every one I play on gives the guitar a high shrill treble tone...

**Tekky** · 06-10-2003, 12:15 AM

Re: Any plans for Maple Boards?

I feel that asthetically, a maple board with a dark body just looks good. (and the inverse is true)

In my arsenal here's my maple boards:
2 - Dinky Reverse
Model 2 (replaced Rosewood for maple)
Model 3A (replaced Rosewood for maple)
Model 8
JRS-2

Tone wise, I'm not noticing very much difference, it could be that these guitars each have different pickups and configurations.

[ June 10, 2003, 12:17 AM: Message edited by: TEKKY ]

**Scott Ians Beard** · 06-10-2003, 06:41 AM

Re: Any plans for Maple Boards?

Originally posted by charvel750:
Just curious, do most of you guys dig a maple fingerboard for the looks of it? Or for the tone/playability/whatever of it? I like maple necks for their cosmetic draw, but almost every one I play on gives the guitar a high shrill treble tone...

i prefer the feel of them, which is why i would like to combine my love of jacksons with a factory maple board! I have an old charvel maple board neck that i picked up from a bargain bin, but no body to put it on! But i would prefer a neck thru white maple board soloist [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

**Toby** · 06-10-2003, 07:31 AM

Re: Any plans for Maple Boards?

Originally posted by shreddermon:
[img]graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img] No maple boarded USA Charvels? [img]images/icons/frown.gif[/img] Disappointing.

USA Charvels are still available, even with maple boards. Charvel/Jackson offers them to custom order. Maybe, some guys like to see them as USA Select. IMO, it makes sense to offer USA Charvels only to custom order. The originals have been built to custom order only. I remember, around 2 years ago, Kevin Easton discussed with the JCF members about USA Charvels. The requests (maple/rosewood/ebony boards, body styles, pickups, hard tail/vintage trem/non-recessed FR/recessed FR, pickups, controls etc etc etc) were very different. I think, a compromise would not really make the enthusiasts happy, and they would still go custom shop. From this viewpoint, it also makes sense to build USA Charvels only to custom order and not as a USA Select series.

**shreddermon** · 06-10-2003, 08:10 AM

Re: Any plans for Maple Boards?

Originally posted by Toby:
The originals have been built to custom order only...

Following that line of logic... Originally, ALL Jacksons and Charvels were only customs. So, does that mean there should be no USA Selects or Artist Series now, too? [img]graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img] I know that's not what you really meant, but the point is times and buying preferences have changed.

Sure, people can still custom order if they want. (...My custom Charvel came in last month, BTW. So, yes, I'm one of them.) The point is that, given its popularity, we shouldn't have to place a custom order (+ big $ and many months wait vs. a USA Select) or make an effort to have a dealer order a special limited edition just because you'd like a maple fretboard. This should be available on one or two more models.

As to the prior discussion with KE, I recall the differences being no greater than, say, McD's "24 fret Rhoads" thread. Just because people say they'd prefer 1001 different things doesn't mean they won't sell a nice chunk of guitars with the most popularly-voiced options. [img]graemlins/images/icons/wink.gif[/img] And, if that doesn't please `em all... Well, as you said, there's always a custom order.

Originally posted by McD:
Will do, again . We can't make guitars dealers don't buy - make sure you let your local dealer know that you want a Jackson with a maple board, then when we launch one maybe they'll buy into it!

Thanks! That's all we can ask. [img]graemlins/toast.gif[/img] My "local" dealer is on the other coast, though. [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] But, trust me, he knows already. [img]graemlins/images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

**~K~** · 06-10-2003, 08:24 AM

Re: Any plans for Maple Boards?

I disagree with you Toby .. I really think they need to do a USA retro charvel .. and I know the strathead thing has been beat to death so make it as pointy .. They can still do non recessed or vintage trems . .I'd love to see hardtails myself but it won't be a huge seller, so you gotta do what sells .. and I think a throwback USA charvel at a decent price will sell ... especially if it differs from the Jackson line a bit ..

[ June 10, 2003, 08:24 AM: Message edited by: KMaynard ]

**Toby** · 06-10-2003, 09:47 AM

Re: Any plans for Maple Boards?

Following that line of logic... Originally, ALL Jacksons and Charvels were only customs.

This applies for all USA Charvels and USA Jacksons before they started to offer production models around 1990/91.

So, does that mean there should be no USA Selects or Artist Series now, too? [img]graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img] I know that's not what you really meant, but the point is times and buying preferences have changed.

This is not what I meant. The USA Select series are standardized models. Standardized production lowers the price, compared to the custom orders, and meets most common playes need. These instruments make sense for the most players who don't need an individual custom shop instrument.

Sure, people can still custom order if they want. (...My custom Charvel came in last month, BTW. So, yes, I'm one of them.) The point is that, given its popularity, we shouldn't have to place a custom order (+ big $ and many months wait vs. a USA Select) or make an effort to have a dealer order a special limited edition just because you'd like a maple fretboard. This should be available on one or two more models.

I agree that also the USA Selects should be available with maple boards, or, since I don't like painted necks, neck throughs with oil finished necks.

As to the prior discussion with KE, I recall the differences being no greater than, say, McD's "24 fret Rhoads" thread. Just because people say they'd prefer 1001 different things doesn't mean they won't sell a nice chunk of guitars with the most popularly-voiced options. [img]graemlins/images/icons/wink.gif[/img] And, if that doesn't please `em all... Well, as you said, there's always a custom order.

What I wanted to say, in the historical aspect, it's authentical to build the USA Charvels to custom order only. Even if the original Charvels have typical commonalities, are they individually. I, agree a few standardized USA Charvel models, like the bullseye last year, meeting the most demanded options, make sense. The question is, if the request is big enough to launch a Charvel USA Select series (in the viewpoint of the manufacturer), or if more Charvel customers desire more individual isntruments. This is what I wanted to say.

**Toby** · 06-10-2003, 10:29 AM

Re: Any plans for Maple Boards?

Originally posted by KMaynard:
I disagree with you Toby .. I really think they need to do a USA retro charvel .. and I know the strathead thing has been beat to death so make it as pointy .. They can still do non recessed or vintage trems . .I'd love to see hardtails myself but it won't be a huge seller, so you gotta do what sells .. and I think a throwback USA charvel at a decent price will sell ... especially if it differs from the Jackson line a bit ..

I agree with you Kevin, I also like to see USA retro Charvels (you know). Even if the originals have typical commonalities, are they individually. When I remember the discussion with KEvil two years ago, some requests were individually. If they really do USA Select Charvels (authentic replicas of the San Dimas originals - not the mid 90s reissues), a line of models featuring the most demanded options would sell. But I can imagine that it would be difficult to specify a new USA Select Charvel line. Of course, a single hum Strat with vintage trem and maple board would be cool. But maybe, for many players a single hum is not enough, and others prefer Floyds, birdseye necks and rosewood boards. Would it be possible to handle this variety in a USA Select line.

**skidd** · 06-10-2003, 10:53 AM

Re: Any plans for Maple Boards?

I play maple because I like the tone and the feel.

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