Why dont bolt on jacksons........

[Scott Ians Beard]

.........have sculpted heels (all access neck joints, fastbacks or whatever you want to call them!) One of my pet hates is the 4 bolt plate, which is one of the reasons i am always put off imports.

Is it too expensive, or maybe just the head honchos not wanting to do it?

[Newc]

Re: Why dont bolt on jacksons........

You mean like these heels?

http://autumn-frost.com/ForSale/popartback2.jpg

I find no problem accessing the higher frets with this heel.

Newc

[Disco Dave]

Re: Why dont bolt on jacksons........

He might be talking asbout the heels on the NJ import BC Riches. They have Fastback heels, or so it says on their website.

[2Loud2Old]

Re: Why dont bolt on jacksons........

The "Fastback heel" on my old NJ Beast was the ONLY thing I ever liked about that POS..

That heel was a great looking smooth heel.

However, I've never met a heel the actually made it difficult to play up to the 24 fret.

I never quite understand why guys complain..

I know it doesn't look as smooth but its the back so I don't care...

As I type this, I'm holding an old-school Kramer with a 4 bolt plate/strat type heel.. I have no problem playing the upper register. [img]graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img]

All the newer Jackson imports have the neel area recessed, you will NEVER have a problem with hitting a heel.

[JacksonJuiceBox]

Re: Why dont bolt on jacksons........

Originally posted by 2Loud2Old:


However, I've never met a heel the actually made it difficult to play up to the 24 fret.

I never quite understand why guys complain..

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Have you played a les paul yet! [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[Newc]

Re: Why dont bolt on jacksons........

The problem in reaching the 24th fret of a Les Paul is not so much the heel as it is there are 2 frets missing [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Seriously, I haven't found a Jackson bolt-on that the heel was in the way.

Newc

[2Loud2Old]

Re: Why dont bolt on jacksons........

Originally posted by Newc:
The problem in reaching the 24th fret of a Les Paul is not so much the heel as it is there are 2 frets missing [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Newc

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[Mr White]

Re: Why dont bolt on jacksons........

Anyone else notice that fret access on a bolt on LP copy is way better than a set neck one?
Or is that just me?

Jamesy

[~K~]

Re: Why dont bolt on jacksons........

Can do it this way also ..

[Kamo]

Re: Why dont bolt on jacksons........

Well i suppose if ur one of those people that MUST put your thumb behind wherever your middle finger would be playing, then ya, a big heal would matter. Having long fingers helps a lot while playing [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] I can pivit my thumb somewhere around the 15th fret, and reach the upper 20 frets with my pinky and ring.

I do like the feel of not having a heal there though. Its different, and a little easier to play. Scalloped heals rock [img]graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]

[Destroyer]

Re: Why dont bolt on jacksons........

i like the heels on ebmm (like the jpm model and the higher end ibanez's

[Scott Ians Beard]

Re: Why dont bolt on jacksons........

yeah, i was refering to the NJ bc riches, Ibanez's *gasp* and such like. I dont have a problem reaching the upper frets, its just when you are moving up the neck (on a solo) you get to 12th fret, 15th and then you hit straight into a "wall." I appreciate that the heel has to be there, but smoother heels help my playing. Guess ill have to lump it and get a jackson [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

[Newc]

Re: Why dont bolt on jacksons........

It seems to be a question of technique. Personally I do not see how you even hit the heel (and it's h-e-el, people, not h-e-a-l - "heal" is what you do when you get hurt - goddam public school system [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] )
Anyhoo, to hit the heel, your hand must be in the wrong playing position. I hit the horn way before I hit the heel.

But then, maybe I'm a minor deity? This seems to be a common problem mentioned here.

Newc

[Kamo]

Re: Why dont bolt on jacksons........

o.O i think they're talking about your thumb. How do you hit the horn with your thumb? *shrugs* well if i had a cam, i'd have a picture of my hand sliding up the neck from behind, and my thumb crashing into the heel. But i really have no problem accessing the upper frets while my thumb is on the joint where the heal meets the neck. Like i said, its probably one of those things where people don't feel right without their thumb behind their middle finger while playing. [img]graemlins/poke.gif[/img]

[Newc]

Re: Why dont bolt on jacksons........

If you HAVE to have your thumb directly behind your middle finger, you've got a serious technique problem and will eventually develop a serious hand problem.
My thumb doesn't hit the horn - the side of my hand next to my pinky will touch the horn at the last fret, but the heel is not in my way, as I bend my thumb sideways at that point. I do it that way on neckthrough guitars as well.

Newc