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  • #16
    Originally posted by Axewielder View Post
    If you remove the tone knob completely, some guitar/pickup combinations can sound a little brittle. This is because even with the tone knob dimed, it still cuts the highs a bit.
    Thats because the tone pot applies a load.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Twitch View Post
      Thats because the tone pot applies a load.
      Aight why don't you draw up your proposal in the form of a circuit diagram and post it.
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      • #18
        As Axewielder pointed out, I'm more interested in getting the volume knob outta the way but still want to utilize it. Likely, I can do so, even placed in the tone hole. Not crazy about it because it is a bit of a reach but it'd work AND preserve the original config of the Soloist. Meaning if I ever DID decide to sell it off, I could still revert it back to original set up.

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        • #19


          I know this diagram shows a 3 way blade switch, but the fundamentals are the same.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by vector View Post
            As Axewielder pointed out, I'm more interested in getting the volume knob outta the way but still want to utilize it. Likely, I can do so, even placed in the tone hole. Not crazy about it because it is a bit of a reach but it'd work AND preserve the original config of the Soloist. Meaning if I ever DID decide to sell it off, I could still revert it back to original set up.
            I understand. Have you thought about just taking the knob off of the volume pot? That should provide a little more space.
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            • #21
              So where is the cap? Is it that green blob??
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              • #22
                Originally posted by MetalMedal II View Post
                Sometimes I'll just disengage the volume and get rid of it.
                Doh, I meant somtimes I'll get rid of the TONE knob. The volume I try to keep!

                Someone mentioned using a smaller knob. I've actually done this with reasoonably good results. They make dome knobs that are a bit shorter and smaller diameter than regular ones. These might actually be the top knobs on concentric volume/tone knobs. They are less in the way and may provide enough clearance you're looking for.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Axewielder View Post
                  So where is the cap? Is it that green blob??
                  No tone, no cap. Thats the point of the diagram, ridding the circuit of the tone pot, the cap affects nothing but the tone pot, therefore, the tone pot goes, so does the cap. The green blob was to signify the third leg of the vol pot tied to ground and to differentiate it from the others, because had I left it black, It would have looked like the other two and wouldnt have been clear.
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                  • #24
                    OK so assuming he has 250K pots (unlikely), your schematic will be slightly louder, slighty brighter, and have a larger resistance in ohms measured at the output jack. How exactly is that an equivalent circuit?
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                    • #25
                      If he has two 250k pots, thats 500k resistance. If you wish to keep the same resistance, youd have to replace the 250k volume pot with a 500k volume pot. If he has two 500ks, thats 1000k or 1m, to keep 1m hed have to replace the existing 500k volume pot with a 1m volume pot. With the exception of tone control, it would be an equivalent circuit. If the tone pot was just going to be tucked away in the cavity, then whats the difference?

                      Two pots in parallel, add(actually multiply, but same thing just multiplication is adding a bunch in a hurry) not subtract(or divide). This has been too time consuming. Vector try the smaller knob or no knob idea perhaps.
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                      • #26
                        The volume and the tone pots are not in series, therefore you can't make an equivalent circuit by adding them. Plus, axewielder is right, with no cap there is much less high frequency rolloff even dimed. This circuit is not equivalent to a circuit with the tone pot dimed.
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                        • #27
                          I goofed, reverse my math, but the proceedure remains the same.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by marcus View Post
                            The volume and the tone pots are not in series, therefore you can't make an equivalent circuit by adding them. Plus, axewielder is right, with no cap there is much less high frequency rolloff even dimed. This circuit is not equivalent to a circuit with the tone pot dimed.
                            Thanks, yeah I'm running out of gas here. I'm handing the baton off to you. Twitch still needs some straightening out. I'm tapping out. :dunno:
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                            • #29
                              Two 500k pots in parallel gives you 250k. It's the reciprocal of the sum of the reciprocals to be exact. And with no cap, it is brighter. Axewielders solution will give you an equivalent circuit.
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                              • #30
                                You could situate a rubber washer under your volume knob. The friction would make it harder to turn the knob by accidentally bumping it. As for your picking and use of the bar, move your hand very slightly to avoid the knob and bring the bar over the strings to avoid that being a problem. It may or may not work for you, but you wouldn't have modded the guitar and your volume knob would still be in place and usable when you actually wanted to.
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