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    Originally posted by Greg Crowe:
    Let me ask one more question:

    25th Aniversary of what? [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

    Serialized production started in late 1981(22 years)
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The spiel on the site claims 1979 as the
    beginning of Charvel, and these guitars
    will actually emerge in 2004, though they are being built in 2003.

    I'm not endorsing that view, but that's what the sales pitch says.

    That model doesn't appeal to me, but I don't want a big Gibson jazz box either, yet I can understand the price of one. It's gonna sell enough to justify a limited edition, and the fact it WON'T
    sell huge numbers will encopurage Fender
    to lower the price on future Strathead issues. The guys who buy these will be like the mathheads that paid $250 for the
    first Texas Instruments calculators.

    My pseudo-Strathead USA Charvel proto is
    Stratty enough for me, and has 2 HBs and a Floyd which I really need over a vintage style trem. When that's all that
    existed, I used them, but Floyds and Kahlers are both far superior for my purposes.
    Ron is the MAN!!!!

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      Uh, I guess I got a little too excited...
      just checked guitarxpress, the Dragons aren'T for sale it seems?
      http://www.myspace.com/officialuncreation

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        The guys who buy these will be like the mathheads that paid $250 for the

        Dude you never cease to get under my skin .. Just because you don't want one then the people who do are idiots ... Grow up ...
        Don't worry - I'll smack her if it comes to that. You do not sell guitars to buy shoes. You skimp on food to buy shoes! ~Mrs Tekky 06-03-08~

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          What he's saying is that the people who will buy these will willingly pay that much "to be first", just as the math geeks paid $250 for said calculator "to be first".
          Nothing wrong with it, except it does provide evidence that people will pay that much for them, which provides fuel against the arguments to lower the prices.

          Newc
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            Well if I'm misreading that it then my apologies ... I had some other JCF issues bothering me yesterday and maybe I jumped prematurely
            Don't worry - I'll smack her if it comes to that. You do not sell guitars to buy shoes. You skimp on food to buy shoes! ~Mrs Tekky 06-03-08~

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              Hey AlZ
              Were you referring to 5490 in your thread hope so. Man I miss that guitar.You got a great deal and its value will undoubtedly go way up due to this 25th reissue thing from fender. But I'm glad you have it.My star is just about done I'll send pics when I can.You DA MAN!!
              Really? well screw Mark Twain.

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                Having owned over 60 C/J's (including 17 stratheads, both old and new), I don't understand how anyone can knock what Fender/Charvel/Jackson are trying to do. For the six years I have collected, all I have read and heard from everyone is "how can I get a strathead", over and over. Well, here is the chance and suddenly there are 172 things wrong with what is being offered.

                While there certainly seems to be differences between an 23 year old original and the Anniversary model, is that necessarily a bad thing?

                The most important question anyone can ask if they are a REAL guitar player (not just a collector), is "Does the guitar sound and play amazing?"

                Anyone who truly plays guitar will tell you that while the early Fender strats have a mystique, it certainly does not pertain to every one of them. This is also true with the Charvels. While the 21 fret necks are what separate Charvel from anything else, it doesn't mean that the whole guitar works great. Many of the bodies back then were maple, very heavy, and sounded very bright, not a great quality for recording. And the 22 fret neck stratheads (mostly on the Holdsworth model) had a much fatter feel and were finished which totally ruined the classic feel of the 21 fret neck. Of the 10 early Charvels I owned, only a few truly had the mystique that you look for in a guitar.

                Getting back to the original question, I think the important point is that those who have been squeezed out of the strathead arena due to the hoarding and price points now have the opportunity to get one of their own. Hopefully the guitar will sound and play great, regardless of the minor details that have been overlooked.

                Also, as someone who is yet undecided on whether or not to pick up a 25th Anniversary Charvel, I have to say that I agree with Kevin on the "mathhead" remark, it was a subtle dig toward those who decide to shell out the ca$h for the guitar.

                Ralph

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                  Well guys, I'm not a big fan of the whole strathead mojo, yes, it's very cool, but I don't own one ( yet ) I will most likely pick one of these up when they're ready, but it's not a must have thing for me. Anyway, according to at least 3 people from Jackson, there will be plenty more available, different finishes, configs, etc etc, even a Hot Wheels. They basically threw this one together for the show, but it's not 100% right as you've all pointed out, they are well aware of that and changes will be made accordingly. I was told to look out in January for some very cool things coming in the way of Charvels.

                  The strathead went over big at NAMM, they even featured it and John Walker from Jackson on the cover of Upbeat Daily ( the official NAMM publication ) Anyway, for those of you who think it's too much to pay, don't buy one, pretty simple actually. Just don't knock the guy who does. Same thing goes for anything really...

                  There won't be much difference (that I'm aware of with these and the originals) Mike Shannon will have his magic touch on them and they will be as close to original as possible.

                  Again guys, before everyone starts the hype and speculation, give them a break aye? I for one am very impressed with what they've put together for the show and the way things are going. I can see a lot of good things coming from Jackson in the near future and there's a lot of positive attitudes from the powers that be over there. There was also a lot of positive interest in the JCF, especially from John Walker who took DW's position.

                  Anyway, there will be more cool things to come and I'm sure everyone will be pleased. I brought back some swag for the JCF. I basically donated it to the board, so it's up to the admin's to find a way to distribute these things...

                  Pat

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                    What's funny is that I knew about this months ago, but I didn't predict that this would get so much negative reactions. I should have figured though, some people are just impossible to please... Geez people, be happy. [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]
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                      Thanx Pat! I think SD fans should be very excited right now, cuz only Fenders acquisition of Jackson could have done these two things Shannon/Strathead. Crap I want a Strathead now! [img]graemlins/headbang.gif[/img] Even if you’re not a SD fan you should be excited that the new owners obviously want to deliver what Charvel/Jackson fans want! [img]graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]
                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6M4lm9Ahz0

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                        Thank you Fender/Jackson/Charvel for listening. I love the guitar.

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                          Well, I knew about it as well and even made it clear and most said there was no way... I even went so far as to say wait till the summer NAMM show. Well, they're here now.

                          Oh well, if you dig em, you got em now... And if you don't, well go get yer SL* and KV's and RR's etc etc, a couple of new cool select finishes as well, so everyone should be very pleased as the rest have said... If not, well there's always ESP's and Ibanez's i suppose. Dave was in fine spirits the other day, seems to be pretty happy with the new establishment, even had a private party after the show.

                          Pat

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                            Originally posted by Black Mariah:
                            The SD dudes by and large will not be happy until they move the company back to SD, rehire all the old employees, TURN BACK TIME TWENTY F**KING YEARS, and make the same old s**t over and over.

                            <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Excellent & funny observation! [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
                            "Quiet, numbskulls, I'm broadcasting!" -Moe Howard, "Micro-Phonies" (1945)

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                              [img]graemlins/toast.gif[/img] CHEERS DAVE ! [img]graemlins/toast.gif[/img] HELL YA I AM DOWN ALL THE WAY ! ,ALSO BIG HELLO RALPH ! , SEE YA ,ALZ

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                                Did anyone at NAMM actually play the new Charvel? There is lots of discussion about what it looks like, but I haven't sees anyone mention anything about how it plays.

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