Final Q for the day, 24.75" scale models?

[DonP]

Wow, this seems like a good chunk of their lineup!

Edit: Additionally, how tight must it get down at the 20-24th frets using that scale, or do they literally just shift the pickups, bridge, etc and keep the neck length? Either the Carvin I bought had extra extra mega ultra jumbo frets, or it's just tough down there, even with small fingers. Ok, that didn't really sound right...

Ask yourself this - how many of these are discontinued models? Short scales seem to have disappeared in the early 90s.

25.5 - 24.75 = .75". You apply this 3/4" somewhat evenly to the spacing of each fret, so each of the 24 frets is just slightly closer together. To me it's a non-issue-more of a tone / feel thing than a playability change.

[Ward]

25.5 - 24.75 = .75". You apply this 3/4" somewhat evenly to the spacing of each fret, so each of the 24 frets is just slightly closer together. To me it's a non-issue-more of a tone / feel thing than a playability change.

I was thinking the same thing. It comes out to an average of .03125 less inches per fret. Everyone is different, but I never noticed it being too crowded on my 24 3/4 scales, just different.

[Xyrium]

There is PRS (25") and Carvin (less popular I suppose) and Gibson is still hanging on to the shorter scales. Add to this, the strange need for every manufacturer like ESP, Ibanez, etc. who make LPs that still use the 24.75 scale to honor the original I suppose. So, I really can't agree that it's gone. Who else other than Jackson/Cahrvel in the mass produced market was doing super strats with a shorter scale? Both Suhr and Anderson (though he offers a "Shorty) do super strats in the 25.5" scale, as does Ibanez and ESP, and of course, Fender, but they always did. I think they all bring a shorty model back now and then though, with Anderson offering a permanent solution.

Either way, maybe it was just the Carvin, but I have small fingers and it still felt cramped! :dunno: I suppose I owe myself a purchase of one of the Jackson/Charvel shorties to see if it was just the LP shape/config. Some guy has a Fusion Pro for sale, other than that, the other models above seem to fetch a fair penny these days.

Ask yourself this - how many of these are discontinued models? Short scales seem to have disappeared in the early 90s.

25.5 - 24.75 = .75". You apply this 3/4" somewhat evenly to the spacing of each fret, so each of the 24 frets is just slightly closer together. To me it's a non-issue-more of a tone / feel thing than a playability change.

[Newc]

I don't have "fat" fingers (by my standards, at least) but I find 25.5" scale necks to get crampy up around the higher frets. 22 is about all I can use comfortably, but I like 24 because the 22nd fret is not jammed up against the body.
I've got one short-scale 22 fretter (Custom SLS) and the 22nd fret is in the body. On my 24 fretters, the 22nd fret is right in front of the cutaway, with 23 and 24 being in the body.

Another issue I have noticed between the two scales is when doing multi-fret spans (15-19) - on a 25+ scale I can hit the 19th dead-on, but on shorties I hit the 20th more often than not.

[VitaminG]

Ask yourself this - how many of these are discontinued models? Short scales seem to have disappeared in the early 90s.

There is PRS (25") and Carvin (less popular I suppose) and Gibson is still hanging on to the shorter scales. Add to this, the strange need for every manufacturer like ESP, Ibanez, etc. who make LPs that still use the 24.75 scale to honor the original I suppose. So, I really can't agree that it's gone.

I believe Don's point was that by the mid-90s, the short scale had disappeared from Jackson's catalog. Not that no one was offering it.

Although more recently the KV was available at 24 3/4", as Newc mentioned

[holycross1]

I prefer the shortscaled models they made for feel and tone.
I don't get why they just nixed every 24 3/4 inch guitar from the lineup.
Till the Morton and USA select SLS and KV2T there has not been one since 95 I believe. Don't know why they can't just have one shorty in each body style. I would buy new Jackson's once again.
All my Jackson's are pre 95. Not because of FMIC. But because they just do not offer what I want in a jackson with a shorty. Though the KV2T and Morton are nice. No floyd though. Ouch. And Noone carries them in stock where I can play before I buy.
Fender needs to get serious about making deals to get the Nicer Jackson's in the stores. Not just Harmony built guitars (still well built). I have never seen a Japanese Jackson at GC in the Twin Cities that was not used. Or at American Guitar and Band. And Tim O'Brian has a part in them. He is an original Charvel employee if I am not mistaken.

Rant over.

[Xyrium]

I don't have "fat" fingers (by my standards, at least) but I find 25.5" scale necks to get crampy up around the higher frets. 22 is about all I can use comfortably, but I like 24 because the 22nd fret is not jammed up against the body.
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I completely agree with that tactic, and it's something I've done by choosing a 24 fretter even though I rarely use stuff above 22.

I believe Don's point was that by the mid-90s, the short scale had disappeared from Jackson's catalog. Not that no one was offering it.

Yep, you're probably right. My goof.