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  • #16
    But but but.... It's got Warren's signature on the back of the headstock!

    Warren wouldn't sign a FAKE!

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    • #17
      To answer your question gerryl98. Jackson/Charvel was THE guitar company (and still are IMO, well, pre Fender days anyways when they were IMC in Ft Worth TX) during the 80's and early 90's. I think just about EVERY guitar player back then played a Jackson or Charvel (with a few exceptions that were playing Kramers, BC Richs and Ibanezs) but that created a HUGE market for J/C guitars and thus leading to all these parts for people like us who know that there isnt another guitar that compares with a true Jackson/Charvel (pre Fender days of course). I remember the first time I ever saw a Jackson guitar on MTV back in like late 81, 82 something like that (YES I'M OLD OK!!!!!! LOL). I dont even remember the band or the video, I just remember that angular headstock and the sharkfin inlays and that Jackson name on the headstock and thinking that was the baddest guitar EVER!!! When I was 13, I saved up enough money to buy the closest thing to a Jackson/Charvel I could and that was a Charvette. I think it was a CH3, it had a Kahler trem, 3 stacked single coils with splitting options. I had that until I was able to afford my first Jackson and that was a Kelly Pro XL (maybe 94 or 95?) and then a Jackson Kelly KE3 (97) before being able to buy my baby, which is a Jackson Custom Shop Kelly, which was basically one of the first Jackson KE2T's (string thru body version, neck through, ebony fretboard, Duncan TB4 and SH2 pickups, single volume, but it has reverse sharkfin inlays) in 98. I'm always on ebay searching for old pre fender Jacksons/Charvels to either put together or buy and fix up.

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      • #18
        This entire scenario is interesting because I'm in the market for a newer Charvel neck, and I believe a few ppl safely recommended reliablefender as a seller of such. Unfortunately, they don't have any with rosewood boards at this time that have a plain maple headstock and black logo. I suppose those will be hard to come by.

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        • #19
          I donno, for $300 I think I'd rather get a Warmoth neck or some other custom spec one and put a waterslide decal on it, than a production one that ultimately says 'Made in Japan' on it. Unless the necks really are as good as people say they are. In which case I'II hand over specs to Warmoth and get them to copy it for a few dollars less.
          You can't really be jealous of something you can't fathom.

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          • #20
            I've spec'd out Warmoth and other necks and they usually break 3 bills. Many people will say that Charvel has continued the tradition of offering an amazing value with their Japanese lines. I used to be hung up on the US made stuff, especially being from the US, but Charvel has shown me the light. You can go either way with them, either country has put out some fantastic Charvel products. I can certainly attest to the old stuff, my model 6 is unbelievable, and my model 3 is fantastic as well. I recently returned a custom order Carvin CS6 (I suppose they're all custom) because it simply couldn't compare. Though a very different guitar, playability just wasn't there. YMMV.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by x7stringx View Post
              To answer your question gerryl98. Jackson/Charvel was THE guitar company (and still are IMO, well, pre Fender days anyways
              I have a killer pre-Fender RR1, but my post Fender RR1T kills it. I'm not ruling out that the RR1T might be a happy accident, but I've never played a Fender era USA Jackson that sucked. I wouldn't rule out recent ones if you like killer guitars.
              GTWGITS! - RacerX

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              • #22
                It's amazing how they fit a manufacturing facility in a PO Box! Most compact company ever!

                Originally posted by MakeAJazzNoiseHere View Post
                Everyone knows the Fort Worth factory made the best guitars anyway!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Xyrium View Post
                  I've spec'd out Warmoth and other necks and they usually break 3 bills. Many people will say that Charvel has continued the tradition of offering an amazing value with their Japanese lines. I used to be hung up on the US made stuff, especially being from the US, but Charvel has shown me the light. You can go either way with them, either country has put out some fantastic Charvel products. I can certainly attest to the old stuff, my model 6 is unbelievable, and my model 3 is fantastic as well. I recently returned a custom order Carvin CS6 (I suppose they're all custom) because it simply couldn't compare. Though a very different guitar, playability just wasn't there. YMMV.
                  All in all honesty, you are right, if you got them to roll the edges and everything, you probably would run up more than the MIJ neck delivered to your door. Anyway they don't do a 12-16" radius, or at least not for normal money.

                  I used to be hung up on UK stuff - but then our successive governments closed everything down then sold the rest off to foreign interests.
                  Last edited by ginsambo; 07-19-2011, 09:36 PM.
                  You can't really be jealous of something you can't fathom.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Rogueleader View Post
                    Is chubtone (from rigtalk, I think he's here too?) one of the guys that does this?
                    Hello,
                    No, I don't do this because it's "not allowed". Obviously, reliablefender is getting these direct from a store and parting these out which is "not allowed". Or he owns a store and is using a different name to sell them other than his store because it's "not allowed" and is trying to protect his dealership while breaking the rules. Of course Fender could just buy one of his neckplates and get the serial number off of it and see where the guitar was originally shipped and know who is violating policy, but it looks to me like they are quite happy because that guy is helping them sell a lot of guitars.

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                    • #25
                      Well after all is said and done, think I might make him an offer on two of them!
                      You can't really be jealous of something you can't fathom.

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                      • #26


                        This is why. Bloody impulse buy. Colours are wrong way around to Eddie Ojeda's original Charvel, but I reckon it'd be pretty sweet with a Charvel neck and a Floyd on it. By BC Guitars apparently. Neck pocket wants widening too. Can't figure out if its a Baretta body or Charvel shape. Think its more Charvel Strat shape. Neck rout looks quite shallow so should work without shimming.
                        Last edited by ginsambo; 07-23-2011, 01:25 AM.
                        You can't really be jealous of something you can't fathom.

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                        • #27
                          Looks more like a Baretta to me. The upper horn is all wrong for a Charvel/Strat body.

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                          • #28
                            Yup. Cut too deep in the middle (which creates super-wide horns) and the slanted pickup route indicate Kramer.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Chubtone View Post
                              Hello,
                              No, I don't do this because it's "not allowed". Obviously, reliablefender is getting these direct from a store and parting these out which is "not allowed". Or he owns a store and is using a different name to sell them other than his store because it's "not allowed" and is trying to protect his dealership while breaking the rules. Of course Fender could just buy one of his neckplates and get the serial number off of it and see where the guitar was originally shipped and know who is violating policy, but it looks to me like they are quite happy because that guy is helping them sell a lot of guitars.

                              Charvel and Jackson could both do a fuck-ton of business if they'd commit to a Parts option. Look how their good necks sell high and fast (DK2M, Fusion/Dinky ebony-boarded necks) compared to their rosewood boards. And don't forget the bodies! While there's more Dinky bodies than there are people interested in them, the pointy shapes still move easily at higher prices ($200+ for a clean WRMG body on average). If you see a WRXT body with a nice TransBlue finish without a BIN and the seller won't go for a backdoor, you might get to watch an old fashioned bidding war.

                              However if Jackson simply started with an Import Parts branch - parts made by their Japanese shop and sold direct, including Charvel Strathead necks - I think you'd see them raking in the money from us parts-mongers, and you'd see a rapid decline in the "professional parter-outers" who stupidly don't include the fucking trem posts or complete locking nut, or the fuckin' TREM BAR!

                              You'd also see a lot of happy campers with 22 fret maple-boarded RR3s, baritone WRMGs, Kellys, and King Vs, and lots of other quality mongrels.
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                              • #30
                                In a way its like a new car. Or new generation Ford Transits. 2.2L engines all turbo'd as standard, getting so much damn torque, BHP and reduced emissions out of the tiny little engines, that the amount of computer wizardry defies belief. Once something major goes wrong, you sell a good van for parts, move on and buy a NEW one. Where as a few technical fixes and you could have kept your old one on the road. Ha Ha, and now the American market will have em soon too! Goodbye Econoline.... Good mpg at least though.

                                Well not quite like Ford Transits I guess as Jacksons are generally built to last, but you get the idea. New guitar = more than parts. Also the marketing side probably think that selling parts lowers the exclusivity and prestige of the brand somewhat probably.

                                Thing is I'd pay well over the odds IF I knew I was buying a new decent Jackson or Charvel neck and I reckon most people would and I'd still buy new Jacksons at the same rate. Secondhand you never know what dog or cans of worms you're biting into, even nearly new/used/dissassembled like Mr Bender sells.

                                Oh well if its a Baretta body, then at least the circle colours are the right way round I guess, don't fancy a Kramer neck though....euuuh....always wanted a one pickup charvel mutt
                                You can't really be jealous of something you can't fathom.

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