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[CowboyFromHell]

This whole topic has the same feel as the "illegal MP3 downloads" debate. Put is that perspective, what's being asked for here is the equivalent of Vanilla Ice vs Queen. If you owned the copyrights to something would you like it if other people ripped it off?

[Devotee]

Indeed, that's one of the coolest headstock designs there is!

[MetalHeadMat]

I know it was aimed at Gib$on, but I just happen to love the Sully original extra-pointy headstock.



One of my all time favorites right there!

Oh fuck same here, I'd love to get a custom Sully guitar when the time is right. That headstock looks evil in black with white binding

[DalyTek]

I know it was aimed at Gib$on, but I just happen to love the Sully original extra-pointy headstock.



One of my all time favorites right there!

[MetalHeadMat]

Sully, as one of the smaller builders, how would you feel if someone came to you and asked your permission to do a one-off copy of one of your headstock designs like what MetalHeadMat said?

Please keep in mind that you'd be licensing the design so you'd be making some money off of it. I think this falls into the "different strokes for different folks" category. There's a well known builder who's name I forget, (obviously not well known enough I guess? ) that will actually show people how to take his designs.

Also my original comment was made in context towards Gibson + the banana headstock.

[DalyTek]

I'm kind of surprised you wouldn't be able to just ask the company who owns the headstock's permission for a one off custom. Sure they'd charge you, but so what? It's not like they're doing anything with the headstock anyways, and they'd still be making money off it.

Yep. I have zero interest in the negative attention. I turn down a lot of potential work (and I know a couple others that do as well) because it's not worth it whatsoever. The little guy would have to take off of work, hire a lawyer, fly out to court, and all of that stuff. It's not worth it.

I look at it this way; the headstock trademark makes the smaller builder come of up with his own design and hopefully establish an identity for themselves. If it’s good, people will buy it. I’ll also say that I’m taking steps to protect my own headstock designs because I’d be pissed royally if I saw something I came up with on someone else’s guitar.

I can see both sides of it; I understand the original poster’s concern and that it appears as if the guitar that he wants doesn’t exist. I’m empathetic to that. I think that it’s a drag that Jackson won’t do Roundhorn Vs and Firebirds anymore; they weren’t copying a headstock, and the body shapes ARE of different dimensions. That said, it’s helped me out a bit. There’s also another side of it when you have someone that wants X but doesn’t want to pay for it and still believes that they should be able to have X. I think that us little guys deal with that a bit more, though.

Sully

Sully, as one of the smaller builders, how would you feel if someone came to you and asked your permission to do a one-off copy of one of your headstock designs like what MetalHeadMat said?

[vector]

I'd recommend them for days, seeing as they're the only company that'll do what op wants Sure if you have "principles" then the whole "stealing the body shape and headstock" thing might get to you, but who needs principles anyways?

"We don't need no steenking principles..."
Actually, got in touch w/ a dealer who has moved a LOT of guitars for Hamer ( and submitted a lot of custom orders) over the years and is now hooked up with Charvel/Jackson. He promises that once established, he'd be willing to put some pressure on behind the scenes to make a neck thru w/ reversed Strat head happen. We'll see...

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Well when you do get this guitar, be sure to send it in to him to get it signed for only $300!

Not likely...

[MetalHeadMat]

Back to Ran, then...

I'd recommend them for days, seeing as they're the only company that'll do what op wants Sure if you have "principles" then the whole "stealing the body shape and headstock" thing might get to you, but who needs principles anyways?

[RacerX]

Back to Ran, then...

[MetalHeadMat]

I knew Wayne came up with the Star shape but I didn't know Wayne was building axes with Michael.

It's safe to say I won't be ordering from them though...

Well when you do get this guitar, be sure to send it in to him to get it signed for only $300!

[vector]

Who knew? I think everybody knew, since Wayne is the one who came up with the Star shape originally after EVH hacked up his Ibanez Destroyer. They don't make neck-thrus, though, and they only offer their two headstock shapes.

I knew Wayne came up with the Star shape but I didn't know Wayne was building axes with Michael.

It's safe to say I won't be ordering from them though...

[Devotee]

I think your best bet on getting a Star with a banana headstock is to order a neck and body through KNE. If you want a neck-through though, that's another story altogether.

[toejam]

Thread resuscitation- did a search for Star shaped axes for sale and came across Wayne and Michael Charvel's website and lo and behold- dudes make stars and as custom as ya wanna pay for. Who knew? Wonder if they'd be willing to do a sorta-banana shaped heady?

Who knew? I think everybody knew, since Wayne is the one who came up with the Star shape originally after EVH hacked up his Ibanez Destroyer. They don't make neck-thrus, though, and they only offer their two headstock shapes.

[j2379]

Thread resuscitation- did a search for Star shaped axes for sale and came across Wayne and Michael Charvel's website and lo and behold- dudes make stars and as custom as ya wanna pay for. Who knew? Wonder if they'd be willing to do a sorta-banana shaped heady?

no they wont do anyother headstocks but their own. After my experience with Michael and Wayne, i wouldnt buy anything from them. When i had an issue with my Wayne, they did nothing but make excuses and told me none of the rock stars they made guitars for had any issues.