Is she a member here? Look at that collection!

[Axegrinder87]

Not impressed at all,
I think a point a lot of people are missing is that it is much, much easier to learn the guitar today that it was a few years back. With the advances in technology and the internet.
Not to date myself, but when I was 15 there was no internet to get a million opinions. Also a million sites and videos to show you EXACTLY how to play whatever you want
You were lucky if there was a print magazine available with tab for ANY songs.
Most learning was done by ear or trial and error. Its just way easier now and thats why you see so many young "virtuosos"
To me its just monkey see - monkey do. Just like paint by numbers, does that make a great artist, no just a generic copy.
Dont get me wrong there is young talent out there, problem is every one thinks they are a star now thanks to the internet.
Back in the day there were far less young players with that type of skillset. Now they just download a vid, tab or even a guitar that lights up where you are supposed to play.
Next step is to post a show-off video, that girl constantly looking into the camera makes me nauseous, Exactly what is the point of a video of someone else's syle or song? I understand when people here do it to show off a tone or axe.
Go start a band and post that, I dont want to see your home practice videos. Show me something live instead of crappy tone and sloppy covers!
Time was you practiced in private until you got it right then you played it for people. Now you do your hair and makeup, post a crappy practice vid on the net and wait for the you're hot and you are god on the guitar comments to roll in , Fucking Lame.........
Yeah... make toast a few times and post a video , next thing you know -POW- you're a master chef.... :think:

Exactly what I was saying. +2 for you.

[tonemonster]

Sweet, if you put butter and jelly on mine, you will be the greatest ever

you better wait until you see my hair before you make a statement like that.

[xenophobe]

Not impressed at all,
I think a point a lot of people are missing is that it is much, much easier to learn the guitar today that it was a few years back. With the advances in technology and the internet.
Not to date myself, but when I was 15 there was no internet to get a million opinions. Also a million sites and videos to show you EXACTLY how to play whatever you want
You were lucky if there was a print magazine available with tab for ANY songs.
Most learning was done by ear or trial and error. Its just way easier now and thats why you see so many young "virtuosos"
To me its just monkey see - monkey do. Just like paint by numbers, does that make a great artist, no just a generic copy.
Dont get me wrong there is young talent out there, problem is every one thinks they are a star now thanks to the internet.
Back in the day there were far less young players with that type of skillset. Now they just download a vid, tab or even a guitar that lights up where you are supposed to play.
Next step is to post a show-off video, that girl constantly looking into the camera makes me nauseous, Exactly what is the point of a video of someone else's syle or song? I understand when people here do it to show off a tone or axe.
Go start a band and post that, I dont want to see your home practice videos. Show me something live instead of crappy tone and sloppy covers!
Time was you practiced in private until you got it right then you played it for people. Now you do your hair and makeup, post a crappy practice vid on the net and wait for the you're hot and you are god on the guitar comments to roll in , Fucking Lame.........
Yeah... make toast a few times and post a video , next thing you know -POW- you're a master chef.... :think:

-1

Disagree.

It's no easier now that it was back then. It still takes a lot of practice and dedication, and while all you and your friends were busy learning how to play back in the 80's or whenever, most kids these days don't know how to play anything more than Guitar Hero.

It's just that with the internet NOW, you see all these players that you would have never seen before because they're not in a world-touring band and with the exception of open mic nights where anyone can play, people like these girls would just be stuck in their rooms alone without any audience.

EDIT: It also didn't help that back then, girls playing metal were pretty much laughed at and looked at as jokes by most musicians... which kept many girls who played in the dark. It's also a lot easier to record a vid and upload it than play in front of actual people as well. Guitar playing for many was a hobby for the introverted...

[~K~]

Ya see, I have no problem giving a woman, nor anybody, due credit. My problem is simple. If that were me, playing the exact same as she, everyone would be roaring about how terrible I am. In fact, I can play circles around her, but I'll still never get as much credit as she does.

Of course, I don't own a video camera, nor really have any desire to. I also try as hard as possible to NOT show off, so you'll never see a vid of me, unless I stumble upon a camera, and decide to do some sort of comparison, or perhaps lesson, just something helpful I suppose. So I guess you'll just have to take my word for it

or not...

Actually women have to work harder then Men at this. Generally it doesn't matter how good women can shred, some guy inevidibly will walk up and tell her "You're pretty good for a girl"

[Axegrinder87]

Actually women have to work harder then Men at this.

Unless they're hot.

[Chad]

It is absolutely easier to learn to play and learn songs than it was back in the day. There are tabs all over the place, YouTube videos, Rocksmith, etc.

I have a gig that sometimes requires learning 4 to 6 new cover songs (sometimes songs I've never heard before) including leads in just a few hours. With the internet, I can pull up the songs on YouTube and listen and move around in a song with ease. I often opt to listen to the songs on YouTube even when I have the CDs for the songs....it's just easier/quicker to bounce around between songs. Further, I can look up tabs for a lot of the songs. They usually don't sound totally right, but I use them as a baseline and tweak with my ear from there. Finally, if I'm really stumped, I can often search YouTube for a live recording of the artist playing the song and look what the guitar player is doing with their hands. Further, live mixes are usually simpler and it can be easier to tell what's going on as compared to a multi-tracked, overproduced studio recording.

Back in the day it was mostly.........listen and rewind, listen and rewind, over and over. Occasionally you might find a pro tab in a guitar magazine....or spend the bucks on an artist folio. To get the basics down, I had the Metal Method videos.

Yes, guitar playing still requires a lot of practice and dedication, but if a person has access to the internet, it is ABSOLUTELY easier to learn today than it was just a few years ago.

[Endrik]

These days it's much easier to get knowledge on techniques, theory and licks although there's also a lot of bad information. Very easy to get the basics down but the process of becoming an actual musician isn't really faster. The most important things... your ears... will develop in a pace which is indifferent to the year written on the calendar. Many things can actually slower the process down. All the videos and tabs showing you how to play everything doesn't develop your ears much. Learning by ear develops musical hearing and also creativity much more as the mistakes you do will help you to avoid them more in the future and some mistakes are something cool and will be crucial part of your personal style.

The greatest thing is the availability of all music to everyone. This is very helpful for developing a very wide musical language. The negative side of modern age is that a young aspiring musician could be stuck to music of this age which is often artificial. Musicians who are claimed to be great are actually fake and rely on studio magic or just modern instrument equipment which over processes and compresses their sound which makes playing instrument much easier yet doesn't help to develop personal tone and feel very well. Basically something like Avenged Sevenfold is a pretty bad influence, a lot of studio magic for guitars, in reality they are not only very sloppy but the intonation is constantly out of tune, there's no tone, feel, attack nor any depth. Yet they give a lot of clinics and videos of their lessons are all over the internet.

When it comes to female guitar players then there's definitely a lot of males who stop being objective as soon as they see boobs. It's wonderful to admire different female body parts but it's very stupid to cheer to the owner of those body parts when she does something that she's not quite proficient at. Pouring compliments over a female guitar player on the internet does not increase the chances of you having a sexual intercourse with her.

Then there's guys who feel threatened by women, very insecure in the first place, they will never give credit to women who are better than they are. They are equal to the 50's suburban types who married girls next door because their poor social skills wouldn't get them anything else and found those girls perfect because they had not seen the world and better choices out there and were easily turned into submissive housewives who could tolerate physical violence when their drunk husbands lived out their anger, usually caused by their conformist lifestyle, closet homosexuality and boring job.

And there's guys who are indifferent that the music is made by a female but the musical/playing style or something else doesn't fit into their little world.

[1stSFG-A]

All I saw was a girl playing the guitar so-so. I played like she does when I was 10. Not 15. Cake on the distortion, the effects, hit the whammy 10000 times along with gussied up hair, as much make-up caked on her face as there is distortion on the amp, post a Youtube video, and she's an instant star. The girl plays like crap. She doesn't look that particularly good, either; although, after reading the comments in her videos, I'm sure she thinks she's a Victoria Secrets model with a guitar.

I'd give this girl words of encouragement and pointers, but after all the WK'ing in the comments, she doesn't need it.

It's obvious to me that the videos she posts are just ploys for attention.

Did you see her collection of guitars? LOL. ...because most 15 years olds have collections like that. Can you say extreme Daddy's Girl, which makes this video that much more gut-wrenching.

If a guy posted a video like this on Youtube, he'd have maybe 4 views and a solid red bar of dislikes. Welcome to the post-modern feminist society where having a dick is liability.

As a side note, if she was some fat land whale playing some well constructed and thought out song she had just written, regardless if it was just four notes and two chords, I'd be cheering her on. A video like that would not be attention whoring. This video clearly is, and I can find 100000 more just like her on Youtube.

[VitaminG]

-1

Disagree.

It's no easier now that it was back then. It still takes a lot of practice and dedication, and while all you and your friends were busy learning how to play back in the 80's or whenever, most kids these days don't know how to play anything more than Guitar Hero.

this...

These days it's much easier to get knowledge on techniques, theory and licks although there's also a lot of bad information. Very easy to get the basics down but the process of becoming an actual musician isn't really faster. The most important things... your ears... will develop in a pace which is indifferent to the year written on the calendar. Many things can actually slower the process down.

...and this

Been playing a long time. Gone long periods without playing at all. Some of the stuff my heroes were doing seemed impossible as a kid, but now with tabs, online lessons & youtube, I find out they weren't nearly as complex as I imagined. And many things, even after buying the tab book & the how-to dvd, still elude me.

I'm still trying to learn and get better. And still I suck. Why? Since it's soooooo easy to learn now - with all my decades of experience, a more focussed work ethic & without the distractions of boobs & sports - why aren't I wonderful now? Could it be because it's still as hard as it ever was? I'm still waiting for that magic bullet. Spent way too much time & money chasing after it.

[Axegrinder87]

And still I suck. Why?

Some have it, some don't. It IS easier for those that do, to learn these days. Those that don't, simply don't.

[tonemonster]

I am still doing my hair getting ready to make my shred video. I am using that conditioner Tommy recommended.

[Chief_CrazyTalk]

Give her a break, she's hott!

[VitaminG]

Some have it, some don't. It IS easier for those that do, to learn these days. Those that don't, simply don't.

so for the few, it's easier - for the rest, it's no different than it ever was?

[Weezil]

All I saw was a girl playing the guitar so-so. I played like she does when I was 10. Not 15. Cake on the distortion, the effects, hit the whammy 10000 times along with gussied up hair, as much make-up caked on her face as there is distortion on the amp, post a Youtube video, and she's an instant star. The girl plays like crap. She doesn't look that particularly good, either; although, after reading the comments in her videos, I'm sure she thinks she's a Victoria Secrets model with a guitar.

I'd give this girl words of encouragement and pointers, but after all the WK'ing in the comments, she doesn't need it.

It's obvious to me that the videos she posts are just ploys for attention.

Did you see her collection of guitars? LOL. ...because most 15 years olds have collections like that. Can you say extreme Daddy's Girl, which makes this video that much more gut-wrenching.

If a guy posted a video like this on Youtube, he'd have maybe 4 views and a solid red bar of dislikes. Welcome to the post-modern feminist society where having a dick is liability.

As a side note, if she was some fat land whale playing some well constructed and thought out song she had just written, regardless if it was just four notes and two chords, I'd be cheering her on. A video like that would not be attention whoring. This video clearly is, and I can find 100000 more just like her on Youtube.

+1 on this, I had to get a summer job scraping gum off desks in the schools and save for months to get my first guitar, and it was a pos, I could only dream of owning a Jackson at that time.
So Mom and Dad have money and she gets a wall of guitars, IMHO earning something makes you appreciate and respect it more.
Again, I'm not just looking to trash a kid but more the attitude of instant star nowadays. Its like theres a checklist of fail for the kids. All she is missing is a 7 or 8 string tuned down to R and a chug chug wheedle wheedle nu metal riff....

[Weezil]

this...

...and this

Been playing a long time. Gone long periods without playing at all. Some of the stuff my heroes were doing seemed impossible as a kid, but now with tabs, online lessons & youtube, I find out they weren't nearly as complex as I imagined. And many things, even after buying the tab book & the how-to dvd, still elude me.

I'm still trying to learn and get better. And still I suck. Why? Since it's soooooo easy to learn now - with all my decades of experience, a more focussed work ethic & without the distractions of boobs & sports - why aren't I wonderful now? Could it be because it's still as hard as it ever was? I'm still waiting for that magic bullet. Spent way too much time & money chasing after it.

Understandably there is good and bad info out there on the net, but you still need skill to complete the package. My point was that there are many, many more resources available nowadays for the player, That is indisputable. If you still cannot play like you would like to, work harder at it.
At least you can look up what you need at home and not have to seek out a teacher or wear your vinyl down trying to learn from it by ear. So, yes having more resources at your fingertips does make learning easier, ask any teacher.......................