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**slayer** · 09-10-2003, 07:23 PM

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OK guys, the specs above are what is is and if we go for it, do you want 22 or 24 frets(is there that much difference)? Color(I was thinking of Black Cherry)? Well, we nead 10 guys or it`s out the door as they say, but hey, at least we can say we tried [img]graemlins/band.gif[/img] Jack.

**dinkyjacksonman** · 09-10-2003, 07:32 PM

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Weeell,I was thinking of string through like the Black one I posted a pic of.

And Maybe Gold Hardware.

I have seen OnlineStage used to run limited Edition guitars,Spec based on SL2H with Quilt maple top and String Through.
I want something like these but with 1 hum and maybe a solid color.

**dinkyjacksonman** · 09-10-2003, 07:35 PM

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10people,I will try to get 10 and call you Matt!

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**slayer** · 09-10-2003, 07:38 PM

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I am 1, nead 9 more-AH-PLEASE [img]graemlins/brow.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/baby.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/headbang.gif[/img] Jack.

**slayer** · 09-10-2003, 07:39 PM

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I am 1, nead 9 more-AH-PLEASE [img]graemlins/brow.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/baby.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/headbang.gif[/img] Jack.

**YetAnotherOne** · 09-10-2003, 08:08 PM

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If it's short-scale, 24-fret & any color other than black I'm in.

**~K~** · 09-10-2003, 08:16 PM

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What are the specs?

**slayer** · 09-10-2003, 08:31 PM

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Kevin, check a few posts up, except not sure if it is 22 or 24 frets and it will be Solid Color.24 frets is fine with me and I was thinking of Black Cherry in color and Black or Iveroid binding, which one do you guys like? Jack.

[ September 10, 2003, 08:33 PM: Message edited by: slayer ]

**YetAnotherOne** · 09-10-2003, 09:11 PM

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Black cherry would be cool for the color. I'd prefer the ivoroid binding over black.

**toejam** · 09-10-2003, 09:36 PM

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Originally posted by slayer:
do you want 22 or 24 frets(is there that much difference)?

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, there's a difference... two frets! [img]graemlins/poke.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

**Newc** · 09-10-2003, 10:13 PM

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So THAT'S what's been going on in this thread? [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Ok, time to insert my unwelcome opinion on a few things that seem to have escaped a lot of people:
#1 - H-S models: This is actually a slight peeve of mine - to find a great guitar with a useless pickup config. Yes I like the glassy brilliance of a single in the neck for clean purties, but I also use the neck hum for distorted solos, and it must be a real full-size hum. I've only heard one stacked hummer that sounded like a real hummer, and cannot find another one that doesn't sound like a distorted Strat [img]graemlins/puke.gif[/img] , and since it is easy enough to rewire your personal guitar's neck hummer to run in split mode only, or add a push pull knob that only splits the neck hum (throw the main toggle back to the bridge and the bridge is full-on, push the knob in for neck pickup full-on) This design suits everyone's needs, as you can wire it to your preference instead of cutting wood to your preference ($$$$)

#2 - Single-hum guitars - this certainly doesn't appeal to me at all. You want a car that only goes forward?? You'll be in a pickle when you want to go in reverse. Maybe if it had a piezo bridge for the all-important cleans.... but otherwise if you don't want to use your neck pickup, then by all means disengage it and run the bridge pickup straight to the knob.

#3 - Black hardwre on black/dark colors with dark binding - the None More Black theme. While this may be good to pander to the Gawths, you are wasting your time with that setup on a stage. If you go on a stage wearing all black playing a solid black guitar, just how do you expect anyone to admire your playing? May as well just have an unseen DJ. Call it vanity, but if I'm on stage playing my ass off I wanna be seen and admired [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] and that means I want them to see every detail of a beautiful USA Jackson [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

#4 - Trying to get 10 people to agree to the same specs and be happy.
Good.
Luck.
As was stated, the JCF series was a nightmare of Dream Machines, secret alliances, and foot stomping.

#5 - 22 vs 24 - with a one-hum-wonder, the 24th fret doesn't crowd the neck pickup, and if you only use 20 frets when you play, then stop when you get to #20 like you normally would, but let everyone else who uses 24 go all the way up. You'll most likely pay the same price, so you may as well get all the frets.

#6 - "...Paint and hardware only - anything else (inlcuding not cutting a second pickup hole) is Custom Shop Pricing..." The End. Not Negotiable. Get Over It. (Unless this rule HAS been changed) [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

Yes I know you want it to be "Special" but you won't get a Custom Shop for USA Select pricing unless Jackson has changed their rules.

As for "streamlining" the production - sounds like CNC is coming in and affordable options are going out. Read Warmoth's spiel about Custom Bodies and it sounds exactly the same.
If streamlining by CNC means USA Selects for under $1000 street, or if the prices stay the same but the shop workers get paid the difference, fine by me, but if it just means lesser quality, same (or higher) prices, faster output, and higher management pay, you're going the wrong way.

Newc

**mattsmusiccenter** · 09-10-2003, 10:16 PM

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Oh brother... I gotta figure out how to put up a poll on this guitars specs. So far this is where it's at:

Soloist Body

1 Humbucker (Duncan JB?)

Non Recessed Original Floyd (some want strings thru body, we need to firm this up)

Mahogany Body and Neck

Regular Fins

Solid Color(I need suggestions on this please)

1 Volume Knob

Black Hardware

Black or Creme Binding (whatever is more popular on the board)

Short Scale

Strings - Whatever each of you want, we'll set the guitars up to each of your specs before we ship them.

G&G Case

I've been discussing prices with some of you guys, I know it's a little higher than what's been offered here in the past, but this one is being built in the custom shop. It's not a standard USA Select guitar with a couple minor changes. From the sounds of it so far, it would be way cool too. At this point anything can be changed, just need a minimum of 10 to jump on board with whatever the final design ends up being.

Good luck Jack!
Matt [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

**YetAnotherOne** · 09-10-2003, 11:17 PM

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Originally posted by Newc:
#5 - 22 vs 24 - with a one-hum-wonder, the 24th fret doesn't crowd the neck pickup, and if you only use 20 frets when you play, then stop when you get to #20 like you normally would, but let everyone else who uses 24 go all the way up. You'll most likely pay the same price, so you may as well get all the frets.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Good point (among others). Since this would be closer to a Custom Shop piece than a USA Select, why not *really* customize it. How about H/H in the bridge/mid (ala a Nightswan) and 30 frets (ala a Hamer Virtuoso) or 36 (ala the infamous EC-36)? I'd pay dearly for a 2 1/2 or 3 octave Soloist. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

**mattsmusiccenter** · 09-11-2003, 12:55 AM

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While you guys are figuring out the guitars, here's an MP3.com link if anyone wants to check out my band Trigger Effect.

Trigger Effect MP3

Matt [img]graemlins/band.gif[/img]

**Budman68** · 09-11-2003, 04:39 AM

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Hey Matt, have you guys played in the Harrisburg Pa. area?

Dave->

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