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  • #16
    Based on the ones I've had the plate numbers weren't used in order based on build date. I've had more than a few, what's even stranger is 1286 or 1268 candy red strat ebony board has a 12/86 build date. I own another 12xx and its 4/86. Also have a 4xxx dated 10/86 with pics of it in the original Jackson graphics book. I don't really believe the plates were in order at all I could be very wrong.

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    • #17
      I thought it was common knowledge all the USA made ones were made in Ft Worth, TX and all the imports from Ontario, Canada
      Rudy
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      • #18
        Originally posted by j2379 View Post
        Based on the ones I've had the plate numbers weren't used in order based on build date. I've had more than a few, what's even stranger is 1286 or 1268 candy red strat ebony board has a 12/86 build date. I own another 12xx and its 4/86. Also have a 4xxx dated 10/86 with pics of it in the original Jackson graphics book. I don't really believe the plates were in order at all I could be very wrong.


        1. There was a serial stamp issue for a few.
        2. Did they get serials when ordered, assembled, or completed.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by j2379 View Post
          Based on the ones I've had the plate numbers weren't used in order based on build date.
          Exactly!!

          Originally posted by leftykingv2 View Post
          How could anyone think that they were made in Canada?
          Oh c'mon....EVERYBODY knows "Ontario" era Charvels were made in Texas & Jacksons were made in Canada!!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by straycat View Post
            Charvel # 5490.
            If someone knows how to enlarge this pic please do it because I have no idea how to.

            Largest pic I have of #5490 Richard:

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            • #21
              Nice jackson!!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by spaz View Post
                Nice jackson!!
                That strathead is a Jackson branded Charvel
                I live on the edge of danger facing life and death every single day.....then I leave her at home and go disarm bombs.

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                • #23
                  There were a few strat head and pointy head Charvels towards the end of the run that got Jackson logos.
                  I do know the original owner of 5490 was pissed it had a Jackson logo on it.
                  Really? well screw Mark Twain.

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                  • #24
                    Wouldn't having a Jackson logo make it more rare?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by BlackRR View Post
                      Wouldn't having a Jackson logo make it more rare?



                      If you bought a NEW car. A ford. But when you picked it up it was labelled mercury...
                      Would you be jumping for joy?



                      Ok, sure, twenty years later, we can say
                      yeah, its one of a dozen that were printed wrong. That's why its worth more.
                      But you don't think like back then.

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                      • #26
                        Wasn't printed wrong they had no more charvel USA logos available. Charvel was becoming the import line, Jackson would be the USAs.

                        Originally posted by pianoguyy View Post
                        If you bought a NEW car. A ford. But when you picked it up it was labelled mercury...
                        Would you be jumping for joy?



                        Ok, sure, twenty years later, we can say
                        yeah, its one of a dozen that were printed wrong. That's why its worth more.
                        But you don't think like back then.

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                        • #27
                          +1
                          Really? well screw Mark Twain.

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                          • #28
                            I own Charvel #5359, and it's one of the first of the tail end of the Charvel run to have a Jackson logo, and I'll admit, I wish it did have a Charvel logo on the headstock...

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by j2379 View Post
                              I don't really believe the plates were in order at all I could be very wrong.
                              I do have a theory on this... and I think it's a fairly accurate guesstimate.

                              The last of the SD Charvel plates... (there were a LOT of exceptions for CJ in the summer of 86) were given to EVERYTHING leaving Glendora before it closed, to get rid of them. Charvel and Jackson style strats, logo'd either Charvel or Jackson, received the last of the SD Charvel plates. A lot of people would disagree with me about this, but they like to call their end-run Glendora Jackson strats SD Charvels, even if the electronics layout was Jackson and even if it had a Jackson logo... I disagree, but it doesn't really matter, they were both made by the same people using the same tools at the same time and it's just arguing semantics for e-peen and nothing else. Anyway, they were saving the Jackson plates until they were finished with the move. Anyway...

                              So I assume that the plates... we're talking thousands of neck plates... weighing many hundreds of pounds... I assume that they all got mixed up or dropped out of the boxes during the move or were hastily re-stacked out of order setting up the new shop. By the time they realized this, thousands of neck plates were not in serialized order, and it would have taken way too much effort to re-sort them, so they just went with whatever box was on top of the pallet.

                              We also know that Jackson had been running serials in order forever. They wouldn't just start to decide using them out of order without good reason. So the good reason would be that they got mixed up. How is up for speculation, but it's pretty obvious they wouldn't have out of order if they didn't have any other realistic choice.
                              Last edited by xenophobe; 12-21-2013, 02:06 AM.
                              The 2nd Amendment: America's Original Homeland Defense.

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                              • #30
                                They used SD plates on jackson until 89 as far as I know. Jackson plates from 1001-1505 were in order but from 1506 on up were not all in order. Those ones in order were from the san dimas plant and when they got to ontario thats when they got out off order. Anyway, thats what I read a while back. I am not sure anymore about what I said because I have seen on ebay not to long ago a 86 jackson biult 7-24-86 that had a serial number 20xx. So, who really knows??

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