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**BIG BUTCH C** · 09-28-2003, 10:41 PM

Re: RANDY ROADS RLOYDE ROSE PROBLEM

Originally posted by toejam:
I'd use at least 3 springs for the Floyd. I don't see how anyone can really use two, as it makes the Floyd feel too loose to me. I usually use 4 or 5 springs anyway (with 10-46 gauge strings), as I like more tension and the stiffer feel of the Floyd.

hmmmmm this is factroy stcok,wonder whats up with this,where can i get new springs?

**mm2002** · 09-28-2003, 10:57 PM

Re: RANDY ROADS RLOYDE ROSE PROBLEM

Originally posted by charvel750:
Hey, MM, I'm an extremely underpaid teacher. Not sure why you've come into contact with so many incompetent teachers out there, but I can assure you that the overwhelming majority of them are not lazy and incompetent. It's a noble profession, and a dying one too. People who have college degrees in my field of expertise are in private enterprise making triple what I do. But I love what I do, and I know I am making a difference. 9 times out of 10 it's the students' fault, not the teachers' fault for failure. We have lost the family and the strength of its morals, values, and success. Many of our students are academically strong, and honestly try hard, but the support from home of many is below par. I blame the breakdown of the traditional family for the flaws, not the teachers. Perhaps you should too.

Joe, (and I really hate getting off the subject of a post like this, sorry guys) I do agree in part with your point and my hat's off to you for being one of the teachers that most should take an example from, but my feelings come from a working relationship I have with many local school districts and I'm sorry but yes, I do see a lot of teachers that just seem to be there for the paycheck. I'll tell you a very disturbing example of this: last summer I was doing some network upgrades and maintenance at one of our local school districts and in the special ed room (7th thru 9th grades) I found a bunch of child porn on the teachers computer. I immediately went to the server and started checking some cache logs and found that he spent about 3/4 of his days surfing porn on the internet while his students were busy. I went before the school board with his PC under my arm and the guy was fired the next day. Now Joe, I realize this fruitcake was an exception but if you think this kind of "teacher" just doesn't exist, your very wrong. I work with several schools in this area and this is just one of a few dozen stories I could tell you but I'm not going to do it here. I do thank god for the ones like you bro, don't get me wrong, but there are some problems out there that I can't ignore. And BTW, I agree that a lot of them start at the students home.

**toejam** · 09-28-2003, 11:06 PM

Re: RANDY ROADS RLOYDE ROSE PROBLEM

Originally posted by mm2002:
Now Joe, I realize this fruitcake was an exception but if you think this kind of "teacher" just doesn't exist, your very wrong.

You're. [img]graemlins/poke.gif[/img] Who needs a teacher now? [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

**toejam** · 09-28-2003, 11:09 PM

Re: RANDY ROADS RLOYDE ROSE PROBLEM

Originally posted by BIG BUTCH C:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by toejam:
I'd use at least 3 springs for the Floyd. I don't see how anyone can really use two, as it makes the Floyd feel too loose to me. I usually use 4 or 5 springs anyway (with 10-46 gauge strings), as I like more tension and the stiffer feel of the Floyd.

hmmmmm this is factroy stcok,wonder whats up with this,where can i get new springs? <hr /></blockquote>I think the only trem system I've ever seen come stock with two springs is a Wilkinson. Floyds usually have at least three. Maybe someone at the factory forgot to put a third in or someone at the store took one out? [img]graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img] I've seen people using two springs with no problem, but I would go with at least three. Anyway, you should be able to find extra springs at your local guitar shop.

**mm2002** · 09-28-2003, 11:16 PM

Re: RANDY ROADS RLOYDE ROSE PROBLEM

Originally posted by toejam:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by mm2002:
Now Joe, I realize this fruitcake was an exception but if you think this kind of "teacher" just doesn't exist, your very wrong.

You're. [img]graemlins/poke.gif[/img] Who needs a teacher now? [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] <hr /></blockquote>[img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] Thanks Joe, I needed that!! And I'm glad your doing such a good job at staying on the subject of this post.....hell, somebody has to!! [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

**mm2002** · 09-28-2003, 11:19 PM

Re: RANDY ROADS RLOYDE ROSE PROBLEM

Hey, wait a minute.....two Joes against one Mark??? Looks like I need to call in some backups!! [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

**Newc** · 09-28-2003, 11:31 PM

Re: RANDY ROADS RLOYDE ROSE PROBLEM

If you had the store do the initial string change from 9's to 10's, they probably took out the 3rd spring and cranked the claw in, leaving only the two springs.

It really sounds like the strings are stretching out if it's only been a few weeks.
It could also be the locking nuts aren't tight enough (or too tight?)

Anyhoo, put on a new set of strings and see what happens [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

Newc

**toejam** · 09-28-2003, 11:31 PM

Re: RANDY ROADS RLOYDE ROSE PROBLEM

LMAO! [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

**RattleHead** · 09-28-2003, 11:37 PM

Re: RANDY ROADS RLOYDE ROSE PROBLEM

I needed 5 springs for the schaller floyd on my Rhoads Pro to balance with 11's. I bet that's your problem.

**BIG BUTCH C** · 09-28-2003, 11:46 PM

Re: RANDY ROADS RLOYDE ROSE PROBLEM

Originally posted by Newc:
If you had the store do the initial string change from 9's to 10's, they probably took out the 3rd spring and cranked the claw in, leaving only the two springs.

It really sounds like the strings are stretching out if it's only been a few weeks.
It could also be the locking nuts aren't tight enough (or too tight?)

Anyhoo, put on a new set of strings and see what happens [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

Newc

ok i took the tem cover off and tighten the sring claw a half turn each screw,to get it back level,tuned it up and its back to intonation(sp?)

i also took the bar off the trem,ive desided to play with out becuase i find my self using it like a volume pedel and turning the strings to spaggiti and back to get that sound,time to hook the ernieball back up becuase thats got to be the problem,also it only had 2 springs from the factory,becuase when i got it i took it all apart to inspect the cuts for body cracks ect,the wiring all that good stuff,but i did not mess with the setup becuase i ordered it from a shop in denver and it was setup before i bought it,but i needed something that the leads rang out a little more,another question for yall,what kinda pic ups is on this thing,there just regular black humbuckers...?

**Doc Dryer** · 09-29-2003, 12:11 AM

Re: RANDY ROADS RLOYDE ROSE PROBLEM

Originally posted by BIG BUTCH C:
i have a RR with a FR licinced trem,it will not stay tuned,and just know a freind suggested that the trems' srews that hold the springs and lossing up,becuase the trem has worked its way from parralel to ann angle,not much but its efects tuning,im thinking its excessive dive bombs and such and its worked the screws loos ,i had the guitar up for 10's ,it came with 9's..is this a problamal cuase ?...note i can't spell [img]graemlins/help.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/band.gif[/img]

" YESTERDAY, I WERE A DROPOUT ...TODAY, I ARE A MILLIONAIRE !!!! "

There IS a button to hit - called " Spellcheck " [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

On the OTHER HAND, there's PROBABLY a LOT of guitar players that are GIGGING and RECORDING with NATIONAL ACTS, making BOAT-LOADS of CASHOLA...that are POOR SPELLERS...

...Probably either NOT paying attention when they WERE in school, or DITCHING school ALTOGETHER, and DISSING HOMEWORK...because PRACTICING GUITAR...took PRIORITY over it...

Ain't NO THANG, Butch... [img]graemlins/notworthy.gif[/img]

...as LONG as you can SIGN YOUR NAME on the BOTTOM of that FIVE RECORD, $ 1.5 MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT from a MAJOR LABEL...

...It's ALL GOOD !!!!!

[ September 29, 2003, 12:16 AM: Message edited by: Doc Dryer ]

**VitaminG** · 09-29-2003, 03:59 AM

Re: RANDY ROADS RLOYDE ROSE PROBLEM

Originally posted by mm2002:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by toejam:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by mm2002:
Now Joe, I realize this fruitcake was an exception but if you think this kind of "teacher" just doesn't exist, your very wrong.

You're. [img]graemlins/poke.gif[/img] Who needs a teacher now? [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] <hr /></blockquote>[img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] Thanks Joe, I needed that!! And I'm glad your doing such a good job at staying on the subject of this post.....hell, somebody has to!! [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] <hr /></blockquote>"You're"!! Damn, dude!! Once bitten,.... [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

**~K~** · 09-29-2003, 05:33 AM

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There IS a button to hit - called " Spellcheck "

Umm .. Doc ...Bud .. Spell check hasn't been in the forum in months .. [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

**joshcrawford** · 09-29-2003, 09:14 AM

Re: RANDY ROADS RLOYDE ROSE PROBLEM

Originally posted by charvel750:
Hey, MM, I'm an extremely underpaid teacher. Not sure why you've come into contact with so many incompetent teachers out there, but I can assure you that the overwhelming majority of them are not lazy and incompetent. It's a noble profession, and a dying one too. People who have college degrees in my field of expertise are in private enterprise making triple what I do. But I love what I do, and I know I am making a difference. 9 times out of 10 it's the students' fault, not the teachers' fault for failure. We have lost the family and the strength of its morals, values, and success. Many of our students are academically strong, and honestly try hard, but the support from home of many is below par. I blame the breakdown of the traditional family for the flaws, not the teachers. Perhaps you should too.

Amen! This is what is wrong with our entire COUNTRY today. Keep your head up bro! My two youngsters will be raised how I was... hopefully more will as well. I'm glad there are folks like YOU out there teaching our kids!

**charvel750** · 09-29-2003, 11:08 AM

Re: RANDY ROADS RLOYDE ROSE PROBLEM

Thanks, Josh. I really believe in what I'm doing, and the day I don't is the day I get out of education, honest! Every profession has its slackers, and I admit, I've seen a few teachers who abuse the system. But so do doctors, lawyers, pro athletes, actors, musicians, etc. I'm lucky enough to come from a family that has been financially well off that I can "afford" to live on teacher's pay. I don't take anything for granted and while I teach Earth/Space Science, I also teach life, skills that don't come from books and homework. But skills that young minds need to develop to be happy, healthy, and productive adults. Rock on!

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