Is this Mustaine King V legit?

[Yash]

Yes, the guitar is legit. But will it bother you that everybody and his mother (outside of this forum) will be telling you its not. And as far as resale goes the initial reaction will be that its fake and make it harder to sell. If you want it purely as a guitar to play, and want to make sure its legit so you know youre getting the quality of a USA made Jackson, then yeah, go for it. If part of wanting it is for a status symbol to impress someone or to collect then Id say pass as most people cant be bothered to research anything and go off their first instinct, which would be that its not real.

Well, that's the point. I wanna play it, make it my own. I don't need it as a status symbol. Just a good King V. I love V shaped guitars. Really happy with my King V Pro, and the ESP E-II Arrow 7. I just want quality guitars with good specs. And this one seems perfect. Poplar body, maple neck through, EBONY board (that and maple neck through are the most important things I look for in a guitar). Floyd Rose, Duncan JB-4's. Would love it! And the gold hardware makes it the LP Custom of the King V family. haha

Thanks for the insight, everyone!
I am gonna check it out. I reconfirmed, the guitar is located a 5-hour drive away from me, I'll check it out as soon as I have the money ready and am ready to pick up, and start getting in the talks with the current owner.

Speaking of that, here's another guitar he has up for sale. It's a Jackson Stars Randy Rhoads 24. Claims it has an ash body. Can it be true? And what Floyd Rose might be in that? Here are some pics.









What do you think of this guitar? What price would you buy it for?

[Vass]

I’d be in on that one if I was in the market for more than the KV . The top
on it is sweet.

[Number Of The Priest]

This looks like the Reverb listing for the Rhoads: https://reverb.com/item/7454955-jack...2003-trans-red

I have no reason to doubt any of the information and specifications mentioned. To answer your questions, according to the 2004 Jackson Stars catalog (https://assets.ctfassets.net/4jcppge...an-catalog.pdf), ash is available as a semi-custom upgrade option. Original Floyd Rose is also an option, and the bridge on this Rhoads does look like an Original Floyd Rose.

I might not be the best person to offer accurate pricing commentary; I don't have enough personal experience or personal data with the Grover Jackson and Jackson Stars brands since they are not too common in North America. The most I could speculate is to price the Rhoads as a high-end Japanese import along the lines of the Professional Pro Series of the early 1990s, since the specifications and build quality appear similar. In that case, aim between USD$500 and USD$1000.

I would price the Mustaine KV like a normal USA Jackson, where my guidelines dictate that any USA Jackson for less than USD$1000 is worth pursuing. That doesn't mean I restrict myself to USD$1000. It is more of a guideline rather than a rigid upper limit price.

[Yash]

Yep. That is the one.
So, I'll aim for $1200 for the KV, and $600 for the Rhoads. And tell him to cut out a deal for me cuz I'll buy both, and give him CASH. haha! Should work out fine. Thanks for the help guys. I'll let you guys enjoy them once I get them. Hope this deal doesn't blow over like the one with the Mustaine King V Pro I was aiming for 2 years ago.
Once I acquire them, I'll post, and since my playing has improved, record a little as well I'll start working on getting them today. Should be done in 2-3 weeks.

[Fret-Shredder]

Hope you get them both. Looking forward to your update. Good luck.

[Yash]

Great. Just found out. They're both sold. And yesterday, both were up for grabs. Hard luck. -_-
PS - If anyone has a KV1 or a Mustaine KV Pro (in Cherry Sunburst) to sell, contact me.

[z1n]

Man that sucks. Oh well it happens. Atleast now you know what your looking at so you can pull the trigger quicker next time should another arise.

[Luca1973]

If anyone has a KV1 or a Mustaine KV Pro (in Cherry Sunburst) to sell, contact me.

There are some on sale here in Italy, one of those is the black one that I posted...but they're all asking ridicoulous prices...

[Yash]

Man that sucks. Oh well it happens. Atleast now you know what your looking at so you can pull the trigger quicker next time should another arise.

You have no idea how disappointed, sad, and angry I am. Will wait when something else shows up. If anyone sees anything, please do let me know! I was so excited

And, for the black KV1 MF guitar with gold hardware, I'll pay $2200 max. The prices are too ridiculous.

[Yash]

Hey everyone! So, I tracked down another KV1! But, it's condition isn't all that great. The electronics work fine. But, damn the bridge looks really banged up or something.

Here are some images.









The pickup screws are all rusted, seems like the guitar had a dip in the water haha. And there's something really off with the high E string tuner in the bridge pickup. Also, they sent me a playing example. Seems like it has some tape on the bridge there. Excuse the resolution, it was screenshot from the playing example video of the guitar.



Let me know your thoughts and comments on it.

[Luca1973]

If it's worth or not...it depends on the price..

The previous one was a Floyd equipped, this is a fixed bridge guitar....they're two very different things.
I think you must have clear ideas of what you want before buying it.

Screws can be easily changed, pickup poles can be cleaned (a complete cleaning would be the first thing I'd do in case of a second hand guitar)

Rather, by looking to that pickup, seems that it could be an F-spaced...the high E string isn't exactly above its pickup pole

In any case, good luck!

[Number Of The Priest]

That looks like a normal USA Jackson KV1 (Jackson proper, not Grover Jackson), as per the Seymour Duncan pickups, mother of pearl headstock logo, and the LSR tuners. My previous pricing suggestion still stands; any USA Jackson for USD$1000 or under is a good deal, but don't be afraid to go over that if you REALLY want the guitar. What does the rest of the guitar's condition look like? You've only shown us closeup photos of the lightly corroded parts, which presents a skewed perception of the guitar. For all we know, the rest of the guitar could be in pristine condition, warranting a good asking price from the seller.

Regarding the string spacing not matching the pickup polepiece spacing, one of the unique things about the Kahler bridge is that its saddles can be adjusted on both the length axis (intonation) and width axis (string spacing). The owner of that KV1 could have preferred a narrower string spacing, thus making the string spacing narrower than the pickup polepiece spacing.

Three part video series from Gary Kahler explaining how to set up one of his bridges:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iaex6G5qNWU (skip to about 6:00 to see where Gary starts demonstrating the string spacing adjustment)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QQXti9k3iw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl1BjBU0jng

[Yash]

If it's worth or not...it depends on the price..

The previous one was a Floyd equipped, this is a fixed bridge guitar....they're two very different things.
I think you must have clear ideas of what you want before buying it.

Screws can be easily changed, pickup poles can be cleaned (a complete cleaning would be the first thing I'd do in case of a second hand guitar)

Rather, by looking to that pickup, seems that it could be an F-spaced...the high E string isn't exactly above its pickup pole

In any case, good luck!

Yes. I know. I kinda prefer the KV1 with the Kahler. But, I'd buy a Floyd too. Just collecting stuff I have a Jackson KV Pro with a Floyd Rose already. The KV1 with the LSR's is what I really want. Preferably from 96 or 97 because Jani's site says that the older ones have thinner necks. I'll just buy what comes up.

That looks like a normal USA Jackson KV1 (Jackson proper, not Grover Jackson), as per the Seymour Duncan pickups, mother of pearl headstock logo, and the LSR tuners. My previous pricing suggestion still stands; any USA Jackson for USD$1000 or under is a good deal, but don't be afraid to go over that if you REALLY want the guitar. What does the rest of the guitar's condition look like? You've only shown us closeup photos of the lightly corroded parts, which presents a skewed perception of the guitar. For all we know, the rest of the guitar could be in pristine condition, warranting a good asking price from the seller.

Regarding the string spacing not matching the pickup polepiece spacing, one of the unique things about the Kahler bridge is that its saddles can be adjusted on both the length axis (intonation) and width axis (string spacing). The owner of that KV1 could have preferred a narrower string spacing, thus making the string spacing narrower than the pickup polepiece spacing.

Three part video series from Gary Kahler explaining how to set up one of his bridges:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iaex6G5qNWU (skip to about 6:00 to see where Gary starts demonstrating the string spacing adjustment)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QQXti9k3iw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl1BjBU0jng

What I am talking about is that the fine tuner on the high E string. Seems broken?
I'll show more photos. The guitar's condition isn't that great. And the asking price right now they've given me is 1900 Euros, which is way too much given the condition.
Here's the guitar. Other than the bridge and the screws, it looks fine. Though I am not too sure about the tuners.

https://www.musicartestore.com/en/jackson-dave-mustaine-kv1-king-v_0123771.html#

I hope this time no one buys it. Someone from the US bought the Grover Jackson one before I could pull the trigger -_-

[xenophobe]

I'd personally avoid LSRs. They're brittle and replacement parts are hard to come by and expensive when they do.

[Luca1973]

haha

I know well that store.
They're 1 hour by car from me.

It's a very good store and the guys are ok, but the price for that baby is too high.
Pay attention 'cos' it's 1900Euro EXCLUDING taxes if I don't see wrong.
Plus there will be the shipping...