Charvel/Jackson bridges and history

[Heavymetal2000]

I've been reading lots and jotting things down for the wiki a lot lately and I'm curious after recently seeing an 87 Model 1 for sale which I posted in the Efraid of Ebay section.

The 87 model 1 I posted has the Fort Worth TX neckplate and the Charvel by Jackson/Charvel headstock which both signify it is a Japanese model and so must be post 1986. He claims it's all original but it has the vintage Fender 6 screw style tremolo bridge where as other sources claim that by this time they would have had Khaler fulcrum 2 bolt tremolos on them.


Any clarification would be great as I'll ne adding all relevant info to the wiki.
Thanks!

But it also has a

[toejam]

I thought the Model 2 had the Kahler fulcrum and then the JT6. The Model 1 always had the vintage trem.

[Heavymetal2000]

Ah this I didn't know, the current wikipedia page noted that the Model 1 would have had the Khaler but they very well could be wrong as well.
Thanks Toejam, I'll make a not of that regarding the Model 1.

Does anyone know when abouts the original Charvels if ever would have had a JT6 or Khaler system? The pre 87 American ones that is. Were they standard or if available would it have been an option?

[EntrailsOfU]

The model series from Japan started in 86. All 86 guitars from that era had Kahler trems (model 2 and 3 had the 2 point fulcrum) except the model 1, which as toejam stated has always had a vintage strat style trem. Model 4 5 and 6 guitars all had top mounted kahler trems.

87 was when the JT6 was introduced to the model series.

[DonP]

Does anyone know when abouts the original Charvels if ever would have had a JT6 or Khaler system? The pre 87 American ones that is. Were they standard or if available would it have been an option?

I believe for American ones (Charvels) you are talking pre-1986. They didn't have the JT6 before 1987 so that would be a no. USA Charvels came with any trem available at the time depending on what the person ordered. Some with Kahlers, some with OFR's (the buyer had to supply the OFR), and v-trems, usually the brass ones. Fixed brass bridges as well.

[Number Of The Priest]

If it helps, the 6-screw vintage trems on the Model 1 (and its variants) were made by Gotoh (Japanese company). I have a Model 1C and that's the trem on it.

I didn't know you were still writing for the Wikia! As soon as you shared that GuitarInside website with me, I abandoned any idea of "reinventing the wheel". Mostly I was looking for a new/reliable/centralized database of models and their specs to help with identification purposes, which Henrik's site and AlienXnation's site both did well, but clearly you are going above and beyond that!

[Heavymetal2000]

Yup, that guitarinside site is pretty great as a resource I agree.

I just still feel like more can be consolidated in the wiki whilst touching on everything charvel and Jackson.
I dont edit every day and it's a mess still atm but I'd like to keep plugging away when I have time.

Thank you all for the information regarding the trem systems for the different years and models on Charvels, I'll be getting it on the wiki.