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Wow..those guitars are sweet. Dean always comes up with the most original designs!
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Did they ever build anything original????
[ November 17, 2003, 07:58 PM: Message edited by: mm2002 ]My goal in life is to be the kind of asshole my wife thinks I am.
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I liked the line "Sleek new design" Which should have been quickly followed by "that isn't really new, just the latest bit of rip-off we have perpetrated"
Chuck"Those who know what's best for us, must rise and save us from ourselves!"
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The headstock design was discussed quite a bit before production. Dean's owner Elliott Rubinson asked me how I thought those guitars should be built. He ended up building them exactly! like I suggested. Notice those babies are solid MAHOGANY(like a Charvel 750XL) but neck-thru. The only thing he didn't do according to my suggestions was the use of the same JT-580LP trem Jackson uses. I hate that trem and suggested they not use it.
We kicked the headstock design around and I even sent a couple drawings of different type headstocks. In the end, it was decided that since Dean had already used that style headstock back in the 80's, that they'd stick with it. I specifically asked they not screw with the Jackson Soloist shape, keep it pretty much the same. Those things are pretty darn cool.
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The headstock is to thick looking IMO. Yes, it resembles the J/C pointy, but it's not sleek enough. It looks cumbersome. Ponderous.
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Well, Jackson/Charvel got their Dinky and Soloist shapes from the Strat and just slightly altered it - what's the diff?
Also, notice the Gibsony shape of Scott Ian's guitar? A cross between a Les Paul
DC and a Melody Maker. The ripoffs go in both directions. BTW, the ML IS an original Dean shape; it's not a Star because the V horns are symmetrical. Of
course Washburn ripped that off for Dimebag's series, but Dean invented it 10 years earlier.Ron is the MAN!!!!
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IMHO, there's a very important distinction between basing a body style on something that's been done previously, and flat out copying it. The Dinky/Soloist is an original design that was based on the strat body. i.e., The changes are significant enough that it's unique. Heck, Fender - in turn - copied the shape with their Showmaster guitars.
These Deans are basically copies.
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So what Greg is saying is that it was his idea to copy the soloist. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
I saw one of the neckthrus at my local music store and was a little caught off guard when I noticed it wasn't a Jackson. I still plugged it in and played it though. It played pretty good IMO.KV DM PRO, SLSXMG, RRXMG, DXMG, LP P90 Goldtop_GSP1101_RM4: JF SL-OD100_Randall RT2/50_Peavey 4x12 cab
I'm loving the Jaded Faith mods. Going Egnater Dual mod route: Voxless, SL-OD100, Brahma #39, QuickMod GT
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I haven't had a chance to check out any new Deans, but if these psuedo-Soloists play as nice as my EVO Phantom from a couple years ago, I bet they're fantastic guitars. As it appears that Hamer is bastardizing the import Californian, it's nice to see that someone (other than Jackson) is building a good mid-level super-Strat. Jackson could learn a thing or two -- abalone or pearl inlay, neck binding and nice stock pickups (from what I remember) make Deans pretty sweet deals all around.
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I like how its not just, a sleak new design but a sleak NEW design [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] I thought about get'n one of their explorers, but I never did and probably never will [img]graemlins/images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]
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