natural finishes and resonance

[axeman81]

I was reading about Wayne Guitars' raving about how a natural finish makes a much more resonant sounding body, and louder acoustic quality, so I was wondering if there would be any truth to this in the Jackson world.
Two interesting guitars to me right now are the SL2-MAH and PC1. Both mahogany bodies, both offered in natural finishes.
In fact when searching the JCF dealers all history I could find on the previously sold SL2-MAH guitars was that they were all in a natural finish! Might be a coincidence though, I think it looks good but not great in that finish...so to my point:
If you took a solid color SL2-MAH and compared it to a natural one, would the solid color have more clearcoats added on top of it or would they both have the same amount of coats? i.e. would there be a different sound quality to them (assuming the body woods had the same density etc.)

let the flames begin [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

- Rune.

[ChickenScratch]

Re: natural finishes and resonance

Actually the tone depends more on the thickness of the finish and not the color (or lack of for that matter). Simply put, a thinner layer of finish will be more resonant than a guitar with an inch of paint on it.

[GodOfRhythm]

Re: natural finishes and resonance

!!?

The SL2H-MAH Natural Finish is the most beautiful Jackson ever for me. A dreamguitar.

[nix]

Re: natural finishes and resonance

I agree with GoR. One of the best looking guitars ever IMHO.

(don't think this one is mahogany, though)

[nix]

Re: natural finishes and resonance

Rune...Wayne Guitars' Monster (I think) is the one where the body is just oiled. More resonant? Makes sense to me but I have never played one to see for myself. By comparison, Fender's CS Time Machine strats (I own a '60 model) are finished in thin layers of nitro for just this reason. The non-CS Fenders are poly which is thicker(not sure on that) and designed to not weather check as readily as nitro. I have a Jeff Beck strat finished in poly. Personally, the Beck Strat seems more resonant than the CS '60 when played sans amp. But there may be more factors at play than just the finish.

[shreddermon]

Re: natural finishes and resonance

That guitar looks like a very pretty albino, IMHO. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Color is necessary. Color is good. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[GodOfRhythm]

Re: natural finishes and resonance

Here's a pic from Scott's site (VWall).

I've got to go change pants now...

[axeman81]

Re: natural finishes and resonance

yeah I've seen all the pics, please read my post, this is not a discussion which finish you think looks the coolest!
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So is it more a matter of what you use for coating, rather than how thick it is? [img]/images/graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img]

[Dreamland_Rebel]

Re: natural finishes and resonance

even the jackson natural finishes have a clear coat. the wayne monster series are just oiled.

[axeman81]

Re: natural finishes and resonance

ok cool, thanks! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[GodOfRhythm]

Re: natural finishes and resonance

I understand that but I could not sit here in vain while my favorite guitar was being bashed so wrongfully. :P

[axeman81]

Re: natural finishes and resonance

I understand too, and I didn't bash it.

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In fact when searching the JCF dealers all history I could find on the previously sold SL2-MAH guitars was that they were all in a natural finish! Might be a coincidence though, I think it looks good but not great in that finish


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[j2379]

Re: natural finishes and resonance

its also the fact the natural finshed guitars dont have a ton of primer on them. when i was stripping the finish off a USA Jackson i was surprised how thick the primer was, maybe 1/16" in some spots. plus the paint & clear coat ontop of that. ive also had guitars that ive striped the paint off the body & ive found they do sound more snappy & brighter that way.

[Child Of Norther]

Re: natural finishes and resonance

I have a natural finish KV2






Has anyone got a pic of a natural finish RR1 or WR1???

[charvel750]

Re: natural finishes and resonance

Unless it's unprofessionally applied paint or any finish doesn't affect squat. How can I say such sorcery? Well, I've had four high end Jacksons refinished lately and I was very concerned that there might be a change in tone with the fresh paint. One of those guitars was a stripped Rhoads that I got sanded down to the bare wood. It played so great and I really loved it. But it looked like ass, so I had it refinished. Absolutely NO difference in tone, still kicks ass hard and sounds as good as ever. This has been found to be true on 3 other Customs. Also, I have a nice Charvel that was really banged up and scratched. I stripped it down and it's awaiting a refin, but it sounds exactly like it did when it had all that paint on it.