Jackson Professional?

[RobRR]

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Ill check my serial when I get home, it was bought new in the late 90's. Its your standard Jackson though, unbound rosewood neck, painted logo, licenced Floyd... so nothing special really.

[Sunbane]

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Hmm...in the picture there, the volume knob looks awfully small!? [img]/images/graemlins/what.gif[/img] Either my eyes are playing tricks on me, or it's not stock. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[Stirt]

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Ya, thinking about picking it up. Serial number 900423

Supposed to be an Ebony board, binding and originally bought in 89 or 90. Bolt on neck.

Looks like a flame maple back and front. Must be another wood type sandwiched in between the lams.

What do you guys think it's worth?

Thanks ya'll -

Gregg-

[Newc]

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900423 should indicate it was made in 89.
Fascinating, as I always thought the Pros didn't "officially" start till 90.

[Tekky]

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How confident are you in the dating system that you're using?

[Tekky]

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By the way, I agree with everyone who says it's a Fusion Pro

[Newc]

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How confident are you in the dating system that you're using?

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Now now, let's not get personal bub.. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Oh wait, you mean GUITAR dating, oh umm....
Well actually it's a complex cross-referencing system based on the 4th number of every serial that ends in an odd number, and the 5th number of those that end in even numbers, compared with the square root of a cherry Pi, multiplied by the number of days in the month in which the Tuesdays of that month match the serial number of the guitar in question.
So I'm pretty confident in it [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Actually, following the Professional Series serials I've seen in-person and that have been posted here over the years, the first number of each bolt-on and neckthrough serial has always matched the last number of the year in which it was made up until the "96" standardization.

There is the possibility that it's really a leftover Charvel Model model from 1989, though those bolt-on serials never matched the year they were made. Neckthroughs did. Maybe they did a scant few in 89 using the neckthough serialization/year model?

[FusionFarmer]

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my fusion pro starts with 90 and it is defintly an early pro, ebony, sharkies, mop logo, onboard electronics. I kinda felt they may have started their numbering with 90 rather than 0

[Hotrod]

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I always wondered why my DR3R said Professional... so your saying that made in Japan quality is comparable to USA made ones?

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Only the 1990-94 models were, and they are easily identified by their serialization:
Neckthrough: J0xxxxx for 1990, J1xxxxx for 1991, etc - J followed by 6 numbers in each case
Bolt on: 6 numbers on the plate that start with 0, 1, 2, 3, or 4 to indicate the year.

Sometime in 1994 Jackson realized the Professionals were outselling the USAs, and those models were "dumbed down" to a slightly lesser-grade, including rosewood boards instead of ebony and painted logos instead of Mother Of Pearl, and lost the active circuits as well.
For the most part they kept the Schaller-styled trem made by Takeuchi, and eventually the MOP inlays were replaced with MOTO and Pearloid.
This was about the time of the XL model designation (Soloist XL, etc).
Even so, those models up until 1998 (IIRC) were on par with the mid-late 80's Charvel Model models.

They settled on what is undoubtedly the best compromise between quality and price in 1996, and the "96" serialization has been in use for Japanese made models since then, with a few serials starting with 97 and 98 for their respective years. However, they went back to the "96" serialization and added a 7th number to the serial in 99/2000.

Indian-made models are identified by their "00" and "01" serialization.

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So what year would a Professional bolt on be that started with 7025xx?

[Tekky]

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How confident are you in the dating system that you're using?

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Now now, let's not get personal bub.. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Oh wait, you mean GUITAR dating, oh umm....
Well actually it's a complex cross-referencing system based on the 4th number of every serial that ends in an odd number, and the 5th number of those that end in even numbers, compared with the square root of a cherry Pi, multiplied by the number of days in the month in which the Tuesdays of that month match the serial number of the guitar in question.
So I'm pretty confident in it [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Actually, following the Professional Series serials I've seen in-person and that have been posted here over the years, the first number of each bolt-on and neckthrough serial has always matched the last number of the year in which it was made up until the "96" standardization.

There is the possibility that it's really a leftover Charvel Model model from 1989, though those bolt-on serials never matched the year they were made. Neckthroughs did. Maybe they did a scant few in 89 using the neckthough serialization/year model?

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Mmmmmm cherry Pi...

I've seen quite a few formulas for determining the date of the imports, and I really have yet to see one that was 100% right.

[pro-fusion]

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All of this confusion over the Professional Series stems from the way it evolved over the years-essentially Jackson gradually whored out the name to include bottom-feeder guitars, but that's not how it started.

In 1990-91, all of the Professionals were "Pros"--ebony boards, metal plates, Schaller trems, pearl logo, active electronics, etc. In other words, an exact copy of a contemporary USA Jackson of that time. These models included the Soloist Pro, Rhoads Pro, Archtop Soloist Pro, Warrior Pro, and Fusion Pro. Anything lower than those in the product line during those two years was badged as a Charvel.

1992 is when the confusion started. Jackson largely retired the Charvel name, and converted most of those lower models into an expanded Jackson Professional Series. That's when the Soloist XL, the various rosewood-boarded Fusions, the Dinky XL and Reverse, etc. were introduced. At the same time, most of the original high-end Pro models were killed off, except for the Soloist and Rhoads Pros, which continued on through 1995. However, the high-end Stealth Pro was added that year (and only that year, I believe), which had the ebony board and metal plates, etc. Also, the KV Pro came out right around then, which was the import version of the Mustaine signature model, and it also had all of the same features of the USA version, except that it didn't have a Pearl logo. As a result, when you now refer to a Jackson "Pro," you have to be more specific as to whether is a real "Pro" model, or simply a shorthand way of referring to one of the cheapos that was built in the Professional Series from 1992 onward. The confusion is evident from the fact that this subject comes up all the time in this forum.

In 1996, Jackson cleared everything up (comparatively) by going to the current system of two-letter/number names. However, they managed to even make that confusing, by making the system uneven. Generally, a model with a "2" number is a USA guitar, except for the DK-2, which is Japanese. And certain lines either never had, or no longer have, "1" or even "2" numbers. For example, the DR-3 is the highest level Dinky Reverse model being made, and it's Japanese, so at least that's consistent with the US/Japan distinction. There was briefly a US-made DR-2, but there never was a DR-1. Why? Who the hell knows...

The guitar pictured above is either a 90 or 91 Fusion Pro, not one of the cheaper Jackson Fusions that came out later on. These Fusion Pros are incredible deals, since they are exactly as good as a USA Fusion. I still regret selling mine, though I've mostly converted over to 7-string, and don't need another one.

[Newc]

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So what year would a Professional bolt on be that started with 7025xx?


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Should be 97. What model specifically is it?

And anything from the Professional Series is considered a "Pro" model, though there were "Soloist XL"s AND "Soloist Pro"s.

[Hotrod]

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DX-1. The predecessor to the current DK 2 I believe.

[Tekky]

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So what year would a Professional bolt on be that started with 7025xx?


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Should be 97. What model specifically is it?

And anything from the Professional Series is considered a "Pro" model, though there were "Soloist XL"s AND "Soloist Pro"s.

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As well as Fusion Pros (like mine and the guitar that started this thread) and Dinky Pros.

[Newc]

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DX-1?
Didn't those have 3x3 heads? Or am I thinking a different model?
Got a pic? I don't have a 97 catalog so I can't look this one up myself. All I got are 90/91, 96, and 99-03.