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**zeegler** · 02-18-2006, 06:34 AM

Re: \'85 Soloist - Refinished = worth less?

Unless it's a 50 year old guitar, I find it stupid when people say it's not worth as much because it's refinished. Let's face it, these Jacksons aren't 50 year old Gibsons, and IMHO if a paint job is done properly, and it looks better than the old paint, it shouldn't be worth any less. I must be in the minority, because I don't buy guitars as investments, or pieces of art that sit in their cases, and get pulled out once every couple of years to look at. I buy guitars to play them. What a concept eh?

**AndyK** · 02-18-2006, 10:18 AM

Re: \'85 Soloist - Refinished = worth less?

I figure the guitar isn't an investment at this point. I didn't like the color, so I changed it. Now, I like the color. I have $1200 invested in the guitar (strangely, that's what it cost when it was new, in '85). Holding it and selling it for $1000 in 5 years makes no sense--so I'm gonna play it, and enjoy it as if I went back in time and bought it new!

**k65h** · 02-18-2006, 01:17 PM

Re: \'85 Soloist - Refinished = worth less?

What people don't know won't hurt 'em.

If you were to sell it on the 'bay, and described it as
"85 USA Jackson soloist
Serial # XXXXXXXXX
Pearl white
Etc...
In very good condition.

And not mention the refin.
(as long as the refin is top notch)

I think you'd get more than the $400-$500 people are saying.

It's a very beautiful guitar.
I think it would appeal to a good number of people.

Kent

**DonP** · 02-18-2006, 01:42 PM

Re: \'85 Soloist - Refinished = worth less?

I'm going to say the opposite in this case. With Classic Gibsons / Fenders, it can harm the value. But if you were to paint it with a graphic that's hot these days, I think it could improve the value (one of the "Ghost Flames" or "Copperhead" comes to mind.).

I have a 1992 Pearl White RR1. If I had it re-done in Bengal Stripes, or maybe a Stryper copy, I think it could help the value.

But then, you are getting the finish the market wants; might not be what you want.

**Genebaby** · 02-18-2006, 03:31 PM

Re: \'85 Soloist - Refinished = worth less?

Interesting comments for and against. Realistically, if you never ever sell it, who cares, you're happy now.

However, one day it will be a 50 year old guitar. It will be competeing against other 50 year old Jacksons. Is the value not affected if resprayed in the first 20 years of it's life? I don't think so. Would a refinished 55 strat that was done in the 70's be worth as much as one that was original?

People generally like that creamy yellow a lot of white guitars become with age, it can be a major selling point. If people like bright white (which is nice, I like it) they can buy a new or newer guitar.

Interetingly enough, my friends 89 Model 6 has yellowed, but my 92 Rhoads Pro is still a pretty nice Pearl White, not yellowy.

**AndyK** · 02-18-2006, 04:31 PM

Re: \'85 Soloist - Refinished = worth less?

The jackson work sheet lists the original color as "white w/ blue pearl". Not sure if that means it was always a tinge towards beige, as opposed to pearl white, or snow white pearl, which is really white with silver pearl. I wish I had the photos the original owner sent me...so I could scan them and show you all.
What I could have done was use an auto detail buffer on the original paint, that might have brightened it up and made it worth not refinishing to me. We'll never know though!
I wouldn't omit the refin on ebay. Someone paying top dollar would be pretty pissed if they opened the electronics cavity and saw it was repainted, etc. GMW did to a pro job though. It wasn't a hack re-spray job. Cost me over $400 at the time.

**sully** · 02-18-2006, 05:47 PM

Re: \'85 Soloist - Refinished = worth less?

[ QUOTE ]
What people don't know won't hurt 'em.

If you were to sell it on the 'bay, and described it as
"85 USA Jackson soloist
Serial # XXXXXXXXX
Pearl white
Etc...
In very good condition.

And not mention the refin.
(as long as the refin is top notch)

I think you'd get more than the $400-$500 people are saying.

It's a very beautiful guitar.
I think it would appeal to a good number of people.

Kent

[/ QUOTE ]

what's your ebay name? i'd like to know so that i never bid on anything that you list for sale. that's fucked up, dude.

**RR_1525** · 02-18-2006, 05:51 PM

Re: \'85 Soloist - Refinished = worth less?

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
What people don't know won't hurt 'em.

If you were to sell it on the 'bay, and described it as
"85 USA Jackson soloist
Serial # XXXXXXXXX
Pearl white
Etc...
In very good condition.

And not mention the refin.
(as long as the refin is top notch)

I think you'd get more than the $400-$500 people are saying.

It's a very beautiful guitar.
I think it would appeal to a good number of people.

Kent

[/ QUOTE ]

what's your ebay name? i'd like to know so that i never bid on anything that you list for sale. that's fucked up, dude.

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Think I coud get away with listing mine as factory? [img]/images/graemlins/poke.gif[/img]

D.

**sully** · 02-18-2006, 05:55 PM

Re: \'85 Soloist - Refinished = worth less?

um! no. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

**mm2002** · 02-18-2006, 06:25 PM

Re: \'85 Soloist - Refinished = worth less?

[ QUOTE ]
What people don't know won't hurt 'em.

If you were to sell it on the 'bay, and described it as
"85 USA Jackson soloist
Serial # XXXXXXXXX
Pearl white
Etc...
In very good condition.

And not mention the refin.
(as long as the refin is top notch)

I think you'd get more than the $400-$500 people are saying.

It's a very beautiful guitar.
I think it would appeal to a good number of people.

Kent

[/ QUOTE ]

That's just not right. If there's been a refin, it should be documented and noted as such. Remind me to never buy anything from you.

edit: oops, should have read the whole thread. Sully beat me to this one.

**mm2002** · 02-18-2006, 06:28 PM

Re: \'85 Soloist - Refinished = worth less?

And BTW, my earlier comment had nothing to do with the value of the guitar, I just love the "yellowed" aged look of pearl white axes. It gives them mojo.

**GodWentPUNK** · 02-18-2006, 09:06 PM

Re: \'85 Soloist - Refinished = worth less?

oh, i thought you meant worthless [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

joe...

**ApeDosMil** · 02-18-2006, 09:51 PM

Re: \'85 Soloist - Refinished = worth less?

should of kept it the way it use to be.

**gkelly** · 02-19-2006, 09:46 AM

Re: \'85 Soloist - Refinished = worth less?

If you like it it doesent matter!!! does ti matter what its worth!! and if your going to sell it on E**** sell it as a Custom Finish by GMW Guitars and let there reputation sell it for you!An upgrade! not as a guitar that you thought the finish looked bad and had repainted by just anyone!!! Custom Upgrade!!!!!

**Zerberus** · 02-19-2006, 10:05 AM

Re: \'85 Soloist - Refinished = worth less?

[ QUOTE ]
What people don't know won't hurt 'em.

If you were to sell it on the 'bay, and described it as
"85 USA Jackson soloist
Serial # XXXXXXXXX
Pearl white
Etc...
In very good condition.

And not mention the refin.
(as long as the refin is top notch)

I think you'd get more than the $400-$500 people are saying.

It's a very beautiful guitar.
I think it would appeal to a good number of people.

Kent

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes.. but if the buyer ever finds out it was refinished, you may end up with a guitar cracked over your skull [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Whether you already have classifieds access or not, I think you may have a hard time getting people to deal with you here after that. I know I won´t.... even suggesting that is just totally fucked up, dude....

*edit* Sully beat Me as well...

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